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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmlbIE3KcDY&lc=G0_gXiWh5Zf4lQRWEzmEx1p3SUVcKX6RyPCixDak8rk]Skid Steer loader for safety - YouTube[/ame] Big heavy backleaning beech... it was 300 yards to the street..

This one wasn't as bad as it looked. Actually pretty simple, with some nice moments for the camera [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7VIo-WmQl0&lc=LL6RazAA8nMOwQVMRKzFhrHyjR3Hx_amzE9wdrzvJlo]Dangerous Tree Removal Radnor PA 19087 - YouTube[/ame]

here's our little chipper in action: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTkw1fsa-pM]skid steer feeds chipper - YouTube[/ame]

Hopefully this pic uploaded.. You can see the logs set up between the walkway and the man in white hard hat.. the stick was dropped there, went about half way across the street... there were some shrubs and the drive that prevented the top from being bombed though

I'll try to do worse next time..

That's a good observation.. Video is great for showing such things... makes me wonder if that large sweeping forward movement creates more or less force on the rigging system and tree... Seems like the gradual arc would smooth out the force, thus making for less shock load... I love to think about this stuff.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AurZWkRlELA]going big - YouTube[/ame] another one for your perusal..

I originally had this set up as a compilation of ladders gone wrong... it was funny, but I felt bad making fun of what could have been very serious injuries.. Just curious. I would guess that with the level of training so much better for Britts than AMericans, they no longer use the 3 cut method for branch removal. How long ago did they get rid of it?

Coming from you... that's saying something.. THANK YOU!

The good, the bad and the ugly................. Made this video for non-professionals.. Seemed liked someone needed to.. there are a lot of people getting hurt out there.. using ladders for tree work - YouTube

Here's a 10 minute vid of a large linden we pruned a few weeks ago. No action, just a view of the tree post pruning and a lot of yapping. Once again the focus is on making small cuts on the branch tips and avoiding cuts on the main leads and trunk. Great tree, but most pros may find the vid a bit boring. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrRa5KUB3iw]tree pruning berwyn PA - YouTube[/ame] any suggestions about treating the fungus (3:52) would be much appreciated..

didn't yur mum tell ya never to run a groundsaw while standing on the top step of a step ladder?

That's what I was thinkin'

Thought you Brits might enjoy this one.. Looks like he made out OK, landing after the trunk hits, though the cut piece takes a bounce into him..

definitely

I think its important to define our terms, so we can have an effective conversation.... that was some thing that shigo was adamant about. Ash is known to barber chair, but couldn't have done so in this situation.. a barberchair refers to the motion of a falling tree, that splits, lifts up from some fulcrum above the cut, sending a large slab of trunk straight back from the cut.. Important to distinguish that from a split trunk or limb, which has been confused by many "experts".. I only point this out becasue ERic at treeworld actually called the split piece a barberchair.. Interesting that he criticized the part of the video that I was most proud of..

How about this one from the same author..... "Differences in viewpoint should invite curiosity, not hostility" Harry Palmer

just read this today and thought of this thread.... from "the seven pillars of enlightenment" by Harry Palmer pg 6... People who misperceive or who are unfairly critical are operating through biased attention units. There aren't many new discoveries made by biased attention units. People end up perceiving that which is already in their mind. The problem with that is it gives them a false sense of being right about something. If they took the time to really examine their observation they would find that they were acting righteous, rather than accurately perceiving fact.

I'll work on it... but no promises.. Keep the saws sharp

Alright... I admit it... I was on vacation and a bit bored... you know how that goes when you can't cut trees... you've got to find something to do.. so stirring the pot over here had to do... I hope you all will find it in your hearts to forgive me

your welcome... of course I consider that small component to be applicable here... I wonder if they have a fancy name for people that are stuck in some orthodox view of the world, propped up by a false sense of righteousness from their group misunderstanding, and can't see any other belief, regardless of any evidence to the contrary... perhaps ........ zealots

Nice link... here's a quote: However, evidence does not support the notion that people systematically overestimate how much control they have; when they have a great deal of control, people tend to underestimate how much control they have.[11]

I was not referring to me with the name calling... I was referring to calling the cuts names.. so WHY would you "not call it safe"???

OK... thank you.. that's a reasonable argument... which I would counter by saying that the speed of separation may SEEM dangerous... however, because the butt is going to drop straight down and slightly towards the supporting tree (which is away from the cutter) every time, the cutter is easily able to stand away from the falling butt. If there is concern about something up top getting dislodged, that will usually be away from the cutter, depending on how straight the tree is. There will be escape time, but even so the cutter should read the top before making this cut. The same precaution should be taken when a top notch is used.. So speed of separation is not really the issue in that case..

The tension and compression can also be hard to read once the tree starts to get straight... Your notching technique is a difficult cut to make on big wood, you'd have to make it lower on the tree, therefore more cuts to get the tree to drop as far as needed, also there is likely to be a lot of fooling around with the back cut, and especially on a big cut, a tendency to misjudge its height relative to the notch which could cause major problems, you could trap the saw, or keep the hinge from folding... and there is also the extreme likelihood of the bar getting pinched once the tree gets straight enough.. once the bar gets pinched there is going to be a tendency to have to put yourself closer to the falling tree to pull the saw out etc... I'd like to see some video of ANYONE making a top notch on a big leaner like that ash... or rolling one that big out with a winch... now that would be something, and we could really compare the three methods... I put out videos of quick and effective solutions to real world scenarios, from the field.. ALL i hear back is speculation and name calling... have you nothing else to offer?