dadio
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Its tough not to sound arrogant when 16 people tell you 2+2 doesn't equal 4... I didn't just make this cut up yesterday... I've used it over 1000 times. Started using it in '89. of course I could just ignore you all... but this is more fun!
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True, BUT they did send me a note thanking me for showing the technique and a link to their video..
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Thank you! That's a perfect example... the snap cut, when understood and made properly, takes the faller OUT OF DANGER, by keeping him from needing to try other methods, that have their own (often extreme) risks..
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e7pKCaQp-4]Woodhenge - YouTube[/ame] Here's a video of the snap cut used by a couple of township or state highway workers... these guys know more about patching blacktop than cutting trees, and they managed just fine.. No disrespect intended, point being, if that can make it work, why can't you? They saw my video and were able to get it done.. its not rocket science... Pretty simple actually!
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and thirdly, (which really should have been secondly, but I've had a long day)... by leaving the top strap and bottom strap, the need to read the tension is not so important, as it can be felt, or seen before the saw gets pinched..
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PS... I'd like to see that little winch pull a 36"+ BDH hung tree out... Good luck with that men!
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Firstly... physics don't change... the predictability of tension and compression does't change either.. if you know the physics, you can read the tension just like anything else in this business... And its pretty simple once you understand what to look for.. Secondly there are risks associated with the winch and roll technique.. you could break your ankle carrying all that gear through rough terrain, shake a widow maker loose above the anchor tree, dull your saw, and scratch your finger with the file... My method works every time. When I cut the tree, I know what its going to do, every time... and it will drop straight down, away from me every time..Its extremely predictable... Why would so many other people say its not???? I can only guess... but it doesn't matter.. because while you all are fiddling around with all that gear and trimming you hinges etc.. my tree's on the ground in under 2 minutes.. "The only rule that really matters is what a man can do and what he can't"... Captain Jack Sparrow
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Skip to 3:30 as its mostly the same ash as originally posted.. otherwise..... Dadio gets lucky again.... and again...and again [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0j69NCIKfw]plunged vertical snap cuts.mov - YouTube[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwdcr9mWbmg]Murphys Tree Service Newtown Square PA Hurricane Sandy Remediation - YouTube[/ame] dadio gets lucky again
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34UlQ1hb1DM]Get Back - The Meetles - Times Square 12-15-12 - YouTube[/ame]
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I appreciate constructive criticism.... please give me some if you can... haven't heard any in a good while...
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Too late for what... the saw did not get pinched. Cut started to close and I was able to feel it in time.. NO NO.... not too late... it was too early.. too early for the tractor, winch, or dynamite! Hate to say it,. but you Brits are a bunch of prudes..
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pinched bar???? Hasn't happened in years... control of the saw refers to being able to keep the saw under control when raised near shoulder height.. How much sense does it make to require a 30 year vet to stick to the same rules for saw handling as a newbie? By leaving a strap up top, it keep the bar from getting pinched during the main cut... you can feel the cut either opening or closing before it gets pinched... if it starts to close, you can whittle away at the undercut to make sure the bar doesn't pinch.. same with releasing the top, if needed.. If it gets pinched anyway... you best have another saw handy
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When the but drops there is a very little shock on the top, as the ground takes the vast majority of the force... I don't bother with the gob cut on leaners.. the cut shown works very well in nearly all scenarios, presents no danger to the faller, will not bind the saw, and is a lot faster and easier than pulling, pushing, roping, chaining, etc... On this particular job, the poperty owner had specifically asked that no heavy equipment be used in his woods...
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You're more likely to run someone over with the tractor than get hurt by the falling wood..
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Everybody does it but no one is allowed to talk about it... How very British.. polite tree cutters don't mention their unorthodox techniques.. I AM just a rogue American on a mission.. to tell the truth... the truth will set you free...
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typo.. meant to say "with HIS..."
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Post-certified Benn.. Glad to see my "appeal" is unchanged across the pond... fast and easy is not only fast and easy, its also often safer than setting up rigging, making awkward cuts and putting others in the potential drop zone etc... lots can go wrong with all that unneeded fooling around.. I left the tape unedited in real time, so you can see that it took less than 2 minutes of cutting to drop the tree.. no chance of getting hit as the but is going down, not back PERIOD... and bar will not get pinched with a proper cut. The American's seem to be warming a bit to the cut.. I like it better over here... rebel with is trees on the ground...
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Yes... we HAVE been through this before.. still a controversial cut.. that works perfectly every time... NOTE: the only time the saw op would be in potential danger is if the piece is top heavy, which is extremely rare, but a most important consideration in such rare cases.. Certainly would then be good to trip the cut remotely for the inexperienced.. I haven't had one in a good while, but the cut could be angled to push the but away from the cutter, as it comes back and down..
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Things are a little different over here... there are "guidelines", which apply to employees.... a company owner can do whatever he wants.. certainly no excuse for unsafe practices, however, I personally do not think its necessarily safer for me to follow the same rules in saw handling that apply to newbies... I was in good control of the saw at all times...
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The property owner was a bit odd.. He loved each and every tree with a passion.... It cost him over 3x the $ to do it this way, but he was happy to pay, becasue he wanted to save the little tulip tree... The top was completely crushed and we cut it back past the rip, cut must have been 6=8" diameter, not one limb left. I was surprised to see the tulip sprout out the next year... Two lines held the top, anchored to two separate trees.. Don't recall the exact configuration.. that was 2009...
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35JkG9P5deA]big ash leaner - YouTube[/ame] also used in this quick vid... think we may have been through this before...
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deer, dog, cat , squirrel etc... swerve til you hear rubber slip, then straighten it out and if you hit 'em, it was their time... lose control of your vehicle and it could turn out to be your time...
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ps.. hey I missed that episode of nosak... also as a teaching piece, have your noticed leaving a wide® corner on a hinge (like the one in your present avatar, which I believe is from the tree in question)... throwing the gun off by some degrees.. I've seen even small variations in the hinge like that make a big difference in some falls and none whatsoever in others.. Still working on that one... Anyone care to venture a thought as to why it effects some falls and not others.. certaainly species could have a lot to do with it.. maybe height of back cut too. Perhaps direction and force of pull line/side weight in combination etc. pretty sure there is something else going on though.. maybe a combination of all the above..
