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Does it have to be with the missus? Surely with all that extra profit and a load of spare time to deal with a mistress could be afforded?

There is a neat table that details BTU (good old British Thermal Unit) generated by different wood species and also details the relative densities of the mainly North American wood species. If you really wanted to you could factor in water content impact on the BTU available as it takes 1 BTU to raise 1lb of water by 1F. All good stuff for spreadsheet admirers. The info can be found at WoodHVRS.

I tried Logs Direct :: Kiln dried and seasoned firewood logs and eco-fuels from Logs Direct, Lancashire again this afternoon and nothing coming up for me. You maybe bringing up an old cache file loaded into your browser.

You may find what you are after in posts on this site and you can post your own requirements there also: WoodLots

I clearly haven't been looking after myself!

The seller (Logs Direct Ltd) were running a defecit net worth in 2009 and the company web site is down so it could be a company fire sale in which case, for anyone bidding, it could be prudent to pay on collection rather than chance a Paypal pre-pay ending up in the hands of receivers if the company has gone bump.

I'm about to start myself - in about 2 hours I'll convince myself its a 5T pile and offer £50 for the lot. I wonder if he'll be tempted, lets hope he's been drinking too?

I did score well in my aritmetic (better than english) exam at school, a long time ago now I know but doesn't a cut down pile to 11m X 6m X 2m = 132m3. Estimating air space at half leaves about 60m3 for wood. Taking part seasoned hardwood at about 500kg/m3 = around 30T. Maybe I need to turn to my calculator for help?

I guess lindisfarne is being helpful as usual and offering up a bag of charcoal to the winner.

From the pile dimensions on my bulk cord deliveries I'd estimate you have around 30 - 35 tons sitting there. With the small chunks of wood it's going to have to be moved on a ridgid 2 or 3 loads. If it was my pile I'd look for £800 and leave the logistics of movement to the buyer as a part filled 3rd load would bump up the average freight cost. Good luck.

Dave - you could try these guys Bulkbag Containers Ltd. Gent there is called Hamish (01382 823824) who is very helpful and they don’t have a large minimum order quantity that others apply. They were £4.80 when I ordered 2 months ago, about 30p more if you have them sign written.

He was just being helpful with a head up - there is a note on the camping page of Farmer Phils festival site saying they are looking out for a wood supplier. Camping - Farmer Phils Festival Shropshire UK

Steve - where do you get your vented m3 bags from? Last time I looked around the cheapest I could find was £4.80 a bag for m3 vented and £1,40 for a builders bag.

I've tried being upbeat and reasonable in this thread but comments like this are off topic, naive at best and a long step beyond the acceptable. It's a very strange comment indeed - in the best interest of keeping calm can we just let my thread die as comments have degenerated to bazaar in this instance, just plain nothing useful in a lot of instances and are moving in the direction of being potentially libellous and defamatory. As threads on this forum are search engine listed I now have to respond to the increasingly reckless comments being made. Negative references to myself personally or any company or trade name I am associated with will be regarded as thus. So, please either keep comments on topic and the first post always denotes the topic or do move on to something a whole lot more interesting.

Hi, You'll find one artic load will more than cover the 20 tons of wood you seek. If you don't get advised of any lumber traders in your local area a good thing to look out for is hauliers on the road lugging timber around you. There is a good chance they will deal in roadside pick ups themselves and can drop a load by you or they may be able to offer up merchants contacts in your area. That approach worked for me.

lindisfarnecharcoal, you are clearly a shoot from the hip kind of person. Please do take time to read the article I posted before commenting to ensure you have your facts up to date.

It's always good to observe a debate in progress but this thread ended up well of on a different and quite personal tangent that I really can't be moved to comment upon in open forum. So to hopefully close it on a upbeat note with a recap, it is a positive message for those who are able to read that in it. Pricing is key to profits and a modest 10% increase will usually double your money for those who talk about money in the proper terms of profits. If you have a good product to sell and a good service to back it up then why not price it accordingly. Thats effective marketing at work. I've had positive customer feedback and more is shipping this week, all into Staffordshire so far, which is a surprising result for the middle of July so I know I'll be able to move as much as I can be bothered to produce at a price others may deem inappropriate which translate to their loss rather than my gain. Pricing feedback should always be encouraged especially for those toiling away at £35/cube locally. They could probably get a better price than that selling LGV loose log loads wholesale to others around the country who command a firmer price which would reduce supply to their local area and in turn push up their local prices. That would be a group working together for everyones benefit in terms of cash profit.

Yes, I have appointed a courier company as I'm selling globally.

Turnover is vanity as the saying goes so I do hope your profits have gone up too. Don't overlook that my £120 for a bag is delivered so the courier company does take a large slice. Then there is the nasty VAT man too. Then there's the log supplier who wanted his pay for the logs. Then there is the labour cost for moving, processing and stacking. Don't overlook machinery depreciation, running costs and maintenance. Then there's the insurance costs on plant and buildings. Then there is the building rates, electicity and maintenance. Then theres the vented bag lost forever and the pallet it sat on. Really £120 a bag does leave some profit but not an unethical amount.

I'm about 4 miles from Phils place and know the man himself. It'd need to be cash sale though.

I wouldn't call a 1m3 bag dumpy - sure you aren't confusing it with a builders bulk bag? I wouldn't like to try and drag one around even though my biceps are expanding.

I received the same e-mail from this group and responded with a detailed e-mail centred on how their wholesale pricing was sustainable at £200/1.4m3 ex-dock side. Never received a reply. They have updated their web site this week, latest one doesn't have any contact details which is strange. A professional outfit would have the marketing set before launch which they clearly haven't.

There seems to be many traders that are constantly searching for the next supply of wood to meet demand. I'd rather sell 100 bags at £120 each than a 1000 bags at £80. Less sweat and lots more money when you take maney as meaning profit. So, if I can get it I'll stick to my pricy but you gets what you pay for offering. When demand is strong is always the best time to raise prices, those that pursue that policy will generally be pleasantly surprised. Even a not too ambitious 10% price increase over prevailing cost inflation can pretty much double net profits on commodity sales. Just a thought for anyone lamenting all the hard work and low prices!

Hi all, I'd like to say a big thanks to all the helpfull folks on here that helped me out with a lot of useful and a few tongue in cheek advice comments a couple of months back. Turned out my first wood loads, of predominantly ash, had been felled and stripped for a while so it was very dry (ranges from 10% to 18% moisture) when it came to me. It is so dry I decided to do a market tester and go peddling a year ahead of plan. Rather than faff around with delivering it myself this early start has provided an opportunity to trial internet only sales. Good news is one week after the web site went live and about 3 days after it's first appearence on Google I shipped the first 1m3 bag today, sold for the nice sum of £120. The site is getting around 15 bumps a day at the moment, I can hardly wait to witness the seasonal rush later this year. I can't wait for the winter, it is only 173 days to Christmas after all! So, with a good promise of great wood (which it is - it's the best I've ever burned anyway) there does appear there may be a decently priced market out there. Thanks again to all that contributed to my previous threads, Barry