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What will charge this winter for hardwood logs per mt
baz replied to mendiplogs's topic in Firewood forum
Within county is £25/pallet and nationwide is £40/pallet. Use palletways as they dont surcharge for a taillift vehicle like most hauliers do. Within 2 miles I deliver at no cost. Further than that people collect or it goes by courier. That beats buying and running a tipper or tipper trailer. -
Isn't there an anti competitive law against that kind of activity
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What will charge this winter for hardwood logs per mt
baz replied to mendiplogs's topic in Firewood forum
But would your electricity or gas company be so community minded? I think not unfortunately. -
What will charge this winter for hardwood logs per mt
baz replied to mendiplogs's topic in Firewood forum
I'm going to be offering my great logs (they are damned good hardwood and seasoned to under 20% moisture) at: £80/m3 collected £105/m3 delivered within county £125/m3 delivered nationwide Firewood isn't my main business so I'm not fussed if it sells or not at that price. I've priced to the cost of product, the cost of production and then added a little for my sweat and toil. -
Take it you weren't referring to this one listed on e-bay as it's still there. Address TIMBER LOGGING PLANT JAPA 700 | eBay UK. Looks like a hammered example with no log splitter area guard left and if he's been running it at 1500rpm like the ad says the poor pump will be shagged seeing thats 4 times the speed recommended. Cheap though as the birdy says, cheap cheap.
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I had a conversation with someone I've know for years in the pub last night. He has just bought in a load of safety logs of the pine variety and isn't happy. He said if I could match the £20/m3 that he bought that load for he'd buy my super dry and clean hardwood logs that I retail at £80/m3. I laughed for a good 10 minutes on that one, almost spilled my beer. I did console him that £20/m3 was very cheap, all he has to do is store it for a couple of years and it'll be fine. I can't believe people are delivering for £40 a tipper load, hardly worth the diesel let alone the wood.
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If that is against the manufacturers operating guidlines and an accident occurs leading to personal injury it could prove interesting with the HSE and the ambulance chasing lawyers. Hope your insurance cover is good and it comes with free legal. With hydraulics and saws maybe safety is more important than speed?
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Firewood attracts VAT at 5% not 20%
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£36/T roadside is a good price as most places in the midlands are £46 - £50/T roadside this year. It may be a problem arranging haulage long distance as backfilling becomes a problem for the haulier on a long haul. The typical haulage cost from North Scotland to middle England would be around £350/load or around £15/T which would land the wood around £8/T cheaper than local suppliers. Only fly in the ointment would be if the haulier raised rates for a long run home empty. Can you please PM your contact number so I can ask for quotes on future hardwood cord orders.
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Then again, the price I've paid for cord wood (hardwood) this year has gone up by 26%, fuel used yo run the chainsaw, telehandler and tractor to process it has gone up by 25% for petrol to 45% for red diesel. Bulk bags have gone up by 15%. Rendering the product costs up by almost 15%. Maybe firewood producers just dont have the balls or the sense of the energy utilities to pass on the true costs to the customers.
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Indeed it was - didn't realise it was a bumped post from the archives.
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Thats a very reasonable price especially for pretty much seasoned wood. Someone local to me was asking £50/T roadside for fresh felled. They reported hands being bitten off at that price, not by me though.
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Think you've got someone else in mind regarding the scrapheap challenge. The log grab isn't mine but it's got telehandler fitment which are different to loader fitment. I think they weigh in around 450kg but the manufacturers web site will provide a definitive on that.
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If anyone in the SE is looking to purchase a log grab one is currently listed for sale on E-bay. Not sure how the price compares to a from the manufacturer price but people can check that themselves if they wish to. Link address is New LT100 Albutt Log Grab | eBay UK
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How much is a processor and man hire day? I tried working out how much I'd do it for and I couldn't get it under £400/day if local to make it worthwhile risking the kit and with one man on their own he'd struggle to do more than 8m3 in a day of anything but super straight cord. Seeing there appears lots of people willing to sell split wood for around £70/m3 I can't see how the hiring thing works out for any other means than to remove a stack of wood thats getting in the way. Maybe if I didn't concern myself with accident, theft and negligence insurance, VAT and PAYE I could get the hiring down to £300 a day?
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Check e-bay, there was a guy hiring out a processor, I don't think you'll find many hire or plant centres stocking them.
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We process 11m3 per day which equates to 7 tons. thats with 2 people (one responsible for preperation and feeding from the log deck and the other working the processor) taking 6 hours out of an 8 hour work day. The other time is set up or clear up time. We find there isn't much point going beyond that as the rate of production falls off quickly as the fatigue and boredom sets in. With one person the average is no more then 1m3 per hour. Those processing 13 tons a day must be very enthusiastic or working 15 hour days. You do however have lots of scope to raise your current 4T bar though.
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As a rough rule of thumb you can work on 1.5m3 for hardwood and up to 2m3 for less dense softwood per ton of wood with bagged logs. So for a bulk load you can anticipate a yield of 38m3 to 50m3 split logs.
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Suppliers of arctic loads of hardwood unprocessed in Oxon/Glos.
baz replied to ozla's topic in Firewood forum
It's looking like £60/T is going to be the going price this year for hardwood. There are still people out there looking to buy cut and seasoned logs for £30/cube delivered. They'll be out in the cold this winter. Do you have a contact name for the Northants branch as I'm being offered lesser woods than ash for £60/T so may as well go for ash at that price if it's on offer? -
Spot on comments. I have a processor and as backup a screw splitter for oversized logs. The processor is by far best with green wood and the screw splitter by far the best with seasoned wood. The splitter will split wood easily that a hydraulic ram will baulk at. So, it's horses for courses but having both means you've got all angles covered.
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Maybe you should be considering raising your prices ahead of outstripping your supply?
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I'm very close by. I take artic loads of hardwood so would be interested in 6 to 8 foot lengths of up to 15 inch diameter cordwood. Can you pm me quantity you have and roadside price.
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When I worked in the oil industry around 10 years ago biodegradable oils were all based on synthetic esters as base oil. These are generally around 5 times the price of crude derived base oils. The main thing to look for with these oils in hydraulic systems is their aggressive nature towards rubber hoses and seals so a simple oil change may give you leaks after a short time. You should be able to check compatibility with the equipment manufacturer.
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According to my bulk suppliers firewood grade cord wood is waste wood thats just too small ro be processed commercially; for boarding, furniture and the like. What else could you use 4 inch to 12 inch wood for other than firewood?
