AA Teccie (Paul)

Hmmm, not sure "D.D.D" can apply here...plus since 2012 TPO Regs changes it's only D.D...but 'dangerous' still covered, assuming that's what you're referring to (if so the 'danger,' a possibility, is indirect, i.e. displacing the wall to make it unstable, and not in relation to the tree condition itself, i.e. failure (unless you think the union is likely / probable to fail.)) Not too late to plant still, maybe get a replacement in now as a demonstration / commitment to continuous tree presence at the site...may come in useful later on, i.e. at appeal (if it goes that way) :I

Particularly if, for instance, Tilia cordata

Not advocating / encouraging such but there is a compensation clause in 'the Act' (see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-trees-in-conservation-areas#Compensating-for-loss-or-damage ). It's a more complex aspect of the TPO legislation, which I don't fully understand tbh but I know others in the forum will. Simplistically, as I see it, if the LPA TPO'd the tree, and then refused consent for removal, on the basis that the tree must stay and an engineering solution found (don't know what / if) if the 'additional cost' is £500 or above, a compensation claim may be lodged. Regards, Paul PS Where you are, Harrogate, is a beautiful spa / garden town is it not, and hence the LA / TOs will seek to protect the trees / urban forest within their jurisdiction / control and oft come under managerial and political (small 'p') pressure to do so.

Very valid comments The above, a reasonable and pragmatic outcome, could not be conditioned / controlled at all by the LPA/TO and hence would be down to the goodwill and cooperation of the land owner...hopefully an understanding and 'arboriculturally' sympathetic one. Paul

The likelihood is the TO would like to see the tree retained, the union looks stable, and the wall rebuilt to accommodate the tree if there's an engineering solution to allow for such. Hence dialogue is important. However, you're not oblige to withdraw the notification and once 6 weeks has expired, from formal registration, and with evidence of such, e.g. an acknowledgement letter, the works can proceed. That's the way the legislation works (see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tree-preservation-orders-and-trees-in-conservation-areas#Protecting-trees-in-conservation-areas a relevant extract from which is below. What about trees in a conservation area that are not protected by a Tree Preservation Order? Trees in a conservation area that are not protected by an Order are protected by the provisions in section 211 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990. These provisions require people to notify the local planning authority, using a ‘section 211 notice’, 6 weeks before carrying out certain work on such trees, unless an exception applies. The work may go ahead before the end of the 6 week period if the local planning authority gives consent. This notice period gives the authority an opportunity to consider whether to make an Order on the tree. Regards, Paul

Thanks John...was hoping you'd say that Paul

Ah, good stuff...n always better "up north" You're welcomed.. Paul

Hi there, Bit of a 'drag' for you all the way up to Huddersfield / Holmfirth (from Sussex.) We're at Sparsholt College, Winchester, in April if better (see https://www.trees.org.uk/Training-And-Events/Course-Detail?id=35964019-0348-4309-B93F-DF5543D08F4E ) If however you deffo wanted to attend 'this' workshop and the online booking process has you flummoxed, give Polly a call at Head Office (01242 522152) saying I said to do so (otherwise she'll direct you back to the website to book online.) Hope ya get it sorted, let me know if not. Cheers fer now n thanks for yer interest.. Paul

Hi all, n Happy New Year...belatedly A 'heads-up' for this northern event at Tim Kirk's place in Holmfirth...hopefully minus the snow 2019 could be the year you decide to move to 'Arb Approval' or to find out more. Whichever, please do come and join me...and please do book at https://www.trees.org.uk/Training-And-Events/Course-Detail?id=057B8235-0443-4173-A00E-3940465D88A1 Hoping to see you / meet you there Cheers fer now.. Paul

Hmmm...maybe not! However, at the interim assessment, with a satisfactory justification, they could...probably better not though :I TTFN paul

Hmmm, appen. Tbh Mick I'm just getting used to my first pair of specs...clearly the lenses aren't thick enough!

From the photos, I'm not sure the trees have been 'cut' previously and so perhaps this is the commencement of a cyclical management regime...as a resident / 'stake-holder' you're quite entitled to ask.

Hi, as others have stated, being Sycamore (if they are coz I can't tell for definite) they are a vigorous species and should respond / re-grow rapidly. However, with such 'heavy' pruning / cutting there is a possibility / probability that decay pockets will develop over time which may compromise the stability of the regrowth stems with age / size. Hence the norm is to repeat the exercise periodically, perhaps on a 5-8 year cycle, and also to keep the trees to the desired size. Regards, Paul

...was that before or after you'd rolled the Ash on top of it? The guidance does refer to trees and saplings so stuff well under 75mm dia. could be included. Remember too the TPO regs changed in 2012, well in England at least, albeit I'm not sure anything changed of relevance to this thread...Chris???

'If' the Hazel was an integral part of the woodland, and probably of significant size, then the TO may be of the opinion it is included in the order. The guidance only states that 'shrubs and hedges' would not normally be included in the TPO but, IME, 'shrubs', including exceptionally Portugese Laurel and commonly Hazel, can be included. (REMEMBER a shrub is more a mode of growth than a botanical classification of plant and the guidance states that, for the purposes of the TCPA, a tree is whatever someone might consider to be a tree...helpful eh? )

Just to expand on this ("thanks for the opportunity Gary ") 'best practice' these days dictates that the 'Area' ("blanket") Order is used as a temporary measure until such time a more accurate assessment of the trees can be made and then subsequently designated as individuals, groups or woodlands accordingly.

Very useful clarification Jon, a process I'm not 'au fait' with...but now I understand more. Thank you. Paul

From FC Guidance: Other controls on the felling of trees There are a number of other controls on tree felling which you may need to take into account. When you apply for your licence to fell trees you must also ensure that you take account of all other legislation. We draw your attention to the following examples which deal mainly with the need to get permission to fell trees. TPOs..

Lesser call for crown thinning pruning really, plus concerns if do incorrectly, because people unfamiliar, can result in crown structure damage. Can still be presented in optionals 2 from 4. Cheers John See you there Paul Smith Arboricultural Association

Albeit the 'cap' looks too big but could it be Armellaria appen?

Tis actually County Durham, Beamish, not too far from Chester-Le-Street...and will be on the website shortly for bookings

PS ...and we no longer need to see 'crown thinning' as a mandatory completed job, it's been changed to 'optional'...but crown lift is now mandatory (previously optional.) PPS We do still need to see 'standard' tree planting, i.e. 8-10s, but only x1 example for most businesses.

Hi John, good to hear. We do have one 'penciled in' for Northumberland on 6th Feb. (TBC)...or Cheshire (Sandbach) in October. TBH the Northumberland event will be provisionally booked but unless there's a min. 6 delegates it won't run ...let's hope the contractors from the far North (Scotland) will travel souff.. Cheers, Paul

Hi all..."the moment you've all been waiting for" the 2019 ARB Approved Workshop dates have been released - see https://www.trees.org.uk/Training-And-Events (ArbAC Preparation Workshops.) The first one at Merrist Wood, Guildford, Surrey on Tues. 8th Jan. (see https://www.trees.org.uk/Training-And-Events/Course-Detail?id=2FAA86D5-3C74-484E-84BF-A0C13122C22B ) and remember that attendance may qualify you for 25% discount on the initial assessment fee Please post back, or 'pm', if you need any more info. Hoping to see you there...n thanks for reading, Paul

No problem Eric...however maybe think about putting "pen to paper", or finger to keyboard, as I will suggest she ask for a method statement that sets out how the job will be undertaken including how tree stem will be removed, e.g. sectioned / 'chogged' down. Cheers, Paul