Bolt

Errrrm, I dont mean to worry you but, erm, Labour. They are not in power at the moment. They haven't been in power for a little while now to be honest. Sorry

I think you may have gone off half cocked on this post.

What have migrants ever done for the UK. #1 Genetic Diversity. Migrants have provided the UK with a world beating genetic diversity. The DNA of every brit can be traced back to peoples from all over the world. If you get your DNA tested, it will probably worry you as you will not be as 'Brit' as you think. Some 'societies' spurn or are scared of genetic diversity. You may differ, but I think shagging your cousins is not a good thing, Hybrid vigour? that is a good thing. Britain has always been choc full of hybrid vigour. Hybrid vigour leads to change, leads to progress, leads to advantage. I can understand why some people may be afraid of this, but that is why migration has always been good for the UK. As an aside, consider the diversity of the kids putting themselves forward for young mayor of tower hamlets. Look how smart they look. Look at their confidence. They are striving forward towards a career in politics. They will make your future. They will not be selling big issue, or spitting in the fries in McDonalds, or watching Jeremy Kyle in a stained pair of Y fronts. That image was a tragic own goal to the 'all immigrants are rubbish' argument. Of all kids in the UK, why are people in the UK why were these kids singled out to 'scare' us? Here is the rub, and maybe it explains the difference in your concerns for the UK and mine. The Britain you move in and experience seems to consist of car washers, nail technicians, big issue sellers and fast food staff. Possibly understandably, I move in a slightly different world. I see big business, I see tech firms, I see massive infrastructure projects, I see the education business. The movers and shakers in these firms sometimes don't look exactly like 'us' (I assume that like me you are white, male, and middle aged). You would probably think of them as 'migrants', I just think of them as people. Good smart, dependable people, good at their jobs and true to their word. People who have great ideas and get stuff done. The minds behind those firms, and the minds creating that wealth are going to be pumping millions into the system when you are old and having your ungrateful arse wiped for you. I wonder who will be doing the wiping.

But most of the responses are from me. NO ONE ELSE IS REALLY THAT INTERESTED. If the 'lounge of Arbtalk is slowly dying', I should think it is entirely because of dross like this.

But loads of things puts pressure on the NHS Smoking Riding overpowered motorbikes Binge drinking Industrial accidents Bonfire night Unplanned pregnancy Lack of excercise The Flu. Are you not passionately concerned about any of them? If you are so concerned about the NHS, what do you choose to do to support it? Moan about Migrants? Oh, that's a huge help!

You haven't given arguments though. You have just made statements and then ignored replies and questions. That is not how an 'intelligent debate' works. Of course, my agenda is that I feel you have 'washed up on the shore' of an internet forum that you don't really belong in. That in itself is pretty funny.

That's the spirit. Oxygen of publicity and all that. Thank very much sir, for you kind cooperation.

Why on earth are you bothering to read it. It is the most pathetic thread on Arbtalk ever. It is an utter waste of server space. With any luck it will get deleted once Matelot has lost interest and tried to spark a 'nationwide adult debate' somewhere else. What an embarrassment.

You did not answer this question? Any reason why? Not much of a debate is it? Maybe LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM YOU LOST INTEREST. I really hope so.

Where is the faux anger? Where are the substandard arguments? There are no arguments, this dopey thread just contains me answering your questions, and you not answering mine.

What is with the troll comments. Have you got some kind of troll complex? Do you come to this forum just to try to get people to call you a troll. How strange.

This is why I think immigration is not just a good thing, it is everything. I don't think you will understand what I am getting at though, which is a shame, as it explains the fundamentals of why the British are as they are. Those Viking, Roman and French invaders are right there, right in YOUR very DNA. How does that make you feel.

I accuse you of not answering posts. I think you read them, but them you seem to forget them really quick.

Yet again.... ...Its your thread, and your 'informed adult debate' and yet it is me that does all the heavy lifting. this is so on sided, but I will indulge you for fear of shutting down this farce of a 'debate'. Note though, I am indulging you and only you. NO ONE ELSE, as NO ONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS RUBBISH YOU ARE ON THE WRONG FORUM

You 'think' a lot of things, but you never back them up. I wonder if you have a view that is formed, or are these thoughts simply passing whimseys that pop into your head? This thread may have gone better for you if you had allowed your ideas to form properly before posting them.

I don't think anyone has passed any comment on the CH4 ident show (whatever that is) in this thread. I haven't seen it as I don't have a telly. Telly is all brainwashing rubbish. I think the whole thread alludes to the problems of watching too much of 'the idiots lantern' to be honest.

It is as if you haven't read a single thing I have posted. You have asked me three times now why I think immigration is good. The first time you asked me I answered you within minutes, then you COMPLETELY ignored me. This is not 'a proper debate', it is a boring monotonous farce that NO ONE in interested in as you are on THE WRONG FORUM. YOU ARE WASTING YOU TIME. You never answer my questions, you just repeat your previous point and ask further questions. Its rubbish.

Its a handy function that I would advise everyone but the OP to use for this disastrous thread... Maybe Matelot will be a little more careful in what he initiates in future.

....... But I did answer this back in post 80. Are you sure you are paying attention? If anyone is shutting the 'debate' down it is you because you never answer a question and you only have a single point to make. Rubbish debate dude!

Shut down 'the debate'. There is no debate. To have a debate you need to answer peoples questions. You respond to a question with a statement. That is not an answer. Have you tried a forum on politics instead of this one? I think you would fit right in.

Like I said. I have no interest in convincing Matelot that my view on immigration is 'correct'. I would be surprised in anyone was interested in my views on immigration tbh. From the first post I have tried to point out that he is pumping his agenda on the wrong forum. I don't think many posters on here are very interested in his views.

I bother for one simple reason. Matelot has a view which he believes if he repeats it often enough, it will become the norm. I don't want to live in a world where it is accepted that there is a supreme race. In every culture there are crap people and fantastic people. I believe you should be judged on what you can do, not the colour of your skin, or you hair type, or your religion or your gender, or if you take it up the arse. I am not interested at all in changing Matelots opinion. He is welcome to it, and I would defend his right to hold it. I just choose to point out that his agenda is not what most members of this forum are interested in He is posting on the wrong forum.

Reality check for you..... NO ONE is in the slightest bit interested as to whether I called you a troll. ONLY YOU keep bringing it up. I have asked you loads of questions, but you only refer to this one. NOOOOOO OOOOOONE CARES. At all. Is it sinking in. YOU ARE ON THE WRONG FORUM. MORE REALITY...... THIS IS AN ARB FORUM. NO ONE comes here to hear your monotonous views in how all foreigners are not as good as the Brits. If they were interested they would simply navigate to a forum that specialises how rubbish immigrants are. Why do come to this forum when you have nothing to say of any value or interest of most of its members?* *another question to add to your to do list

You didn't even manage to answer this one (although, true to form, you did reply). Things seem to have gone a little one sided! This is a really rubbish debate, especially considering you appeared to offer to up your game....

Any progress on this one yet? I hope you don't work in in an office. Those around you would find an uphill struggle to get stuff done!