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Then you get another sling put it over one arm round your back and under the other arm, back through the first bit and clip it into the same biner, that makes a chest harness too.

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Or fig 8 rope harness would do (if thats what I think it is) I'll look for a link.

HAve you ever seen how to make an emergency harness from a sling? Its a handy trick for hillwalking etc, you could do the same using loops of rope instead fof the sling so you can make it small enough. Why would a homemade one out of 24kN rope not be good enough for small child if its good enough for us to climb on?

For smaller kids just make somehting up out of old rope.

Petzl do one called the Ouistiti, for aged 4 up wards.

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Its a real shame that as far as we know no one saw it happen. Would have made you jump!

Hopefully this tree will recover...........

And then here, in this method it just keep the bottom of the hitch tidier but has no other funtion really, its no improvement but at least you still have the middle hole available.

I been trying some ideas. Mark is this what you meant by a shackle? In this picture the shackle stays in place nicely but you lose the option of the third hole in the HC. I'm not sure its really any benefit though.

I keep mine on the helmet, so if I dont feel like using them I dont have to, usually climb up without them and start work before remembering to put them on but at least I have them with me.

Just get normal saftey glasses, not the non fogging ones with foam around the outside cos they fog up all the time! Simple bolle plastics will do the job, usually around £7+vat.

Tony, I have just booked you a place in next years UK TCC, even though no one even knows where (or when ) it is yet!!!!!! Anyway, see you there.

In competition use it just comes out of your normal kit, plus if you win you get 1-200 quids worth of stuff anyway! Rescue kits are just to keep the HSE guy happy, within reason, dont go overboard on it! 400 quid for something that will never get used aint gonna happen. Some second hand gear in a bag for just in case is more like it IMO.

Tony, get yourself 200ft of rope, and time yourself ascending the whole 50 feet and see how you get on. Plus give some regard for waht state your in when you get to the top.

I totally agree with you there ( I did say that earlier) your system is good for those who don't climb much. Once set up they stay on that climbing line for the duration of the rescue which is good. ALso when they get high enough to then move out to the victim the tail of the rope is already up out of the way but can be easily pulled through and dropped down the same exit route as the victims line and descent is easy. My footlocking is not super speedy at all! Last comp I was over 40 seconds for 50feet which is poor, but even on a good day I'm only 30 seconds. In a work situation with chainsaw trousers and boots on I'm even slower. But for that 50 feet you would still need 200 feet of rope for your sytem? Another neat trick you could practice in you rescue is putting a pulley above the victims friction hitch, you then clip into that with a sling connected to you or your lanyard (as long as you are not needign it for anything else) you also still need the fixed connection between you and victim.# Then, when you descend you automatically pull his friction hitch at the same speed as yours, giving you an extra hand spare to hold his head, apply pressure to a wound or steal his wallet!!!

Also, as discussed this method (hamas method) requires tones of rope, so a 20m TIP (not unreasonable) would require an 80m climbing line (unreasonable). Dont for get there is another method for rescue as well, and that starts off with putting spikes on! Fixed double access line, twin ascenders and spikes, that will get you up a tree pretty quick.

Yes I was, but to be fair footlocking up one rope and setting a floating anchor before climbing out to a casualtly still needs two ropes, although only one is hangign in the tree all day long, the other can be in a bag out of the way unitl needed.

Hows your footlocking going by the way? With your build you should be pretty quick by now?

I am really please you are moving forward with new ideas etc. but I think there are already lots of methods for AR and this is just one of them. I dont see it as THE answer. Firstly its quite kit heavy! i.e. expensive! Thats a lot of kit to have hanging in a tree on the off chance someone might need rescuing. Also, the way its set up (in the photo on the other thread) thats two climing lines in use, whereas this method can be set up with just one. Its possible and simpler and set up a 3:1 on one single line, I think its called Rads. The fastest method of ascent is still footlocking or some kind of frog walker method. (although, again thats kit heavy) One good thing about your set up is, as you say, even a novice can use it. Thats good, and having a set up that your particualar team can use is essential. So when you ask if others use it and if not why not, I would not use it becuase a. its too kit intensive and b. my ground can footlock pretty well. So we just leave an access line the tree (the one I have gone up on in the first place) and some basic kit around for a rescue.

Good for you, dont listen to anything I say! But, the depreciation on that Nav once you start blasting chips into it will be more in the first year than 18stoners LDV would have cost you. Does that make sense?.

I did yoga for years to make me more subtle bit it didn't work!

It looks rediculous!! Your gonna ruin a good pick up by splattering it with sap and crud, plus look like a tit while driving around! For less money you could get a cabstar?? Which tips?? I know alot of folk who have had to make do with non tipping pick ups for a while when they get started, mr shutler beign a good example, but an old single cab pick up with some greedy boards looks better than a shiny Nav with a chicken coup on the back. Burn it all now and get a trailer or something before someone sees it!!

Whereabouts in gloucestershire are you?