Rich Rule

I can see where you’re coming from but IMHO a lot of employers will have the box ticked so they think they good to go. The young / new climber will be put into positions where they may not have the experience or ability to complete a complex rigging job. Some employers seem to think that having a SE climber in for 5 days a week is ok as well. When in reality they should be paying for PPE, Pension, Holiday pay and ongoing career development. I stress not all employers but there are definitely many who think the above scenario is ok. Why would they think any different when it comes to jobs and the climbers competency? “They have got the ticket they must be good to go” I am all for pushing new climbers to expand their comfort zone, that’s how they progress and gain experience. But in an attempt to make the industry more professional (which is something you hear on the regular). How will pushing inexperienced a climber way beyond their limits and the subsequent accidents help the cause of pushing the industry forward?

I have to disagree. Some of the muppets barely pass the CS39 or whatever it is called these days. Would you really want them swinging heavy lumps around d on a rope? Just let them get/ thy need experience with work positioning and comfortable, safe use of chainsaw in a tree. Then teach them rigging techniques. Accident happen when people are expected to do thing outside their ability. Also a large numbers of climbers think their ability is much higher than what they are able to actually achieve.

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Well in the past, you have form for doing the opposite to what has been suggested. Its all good though, some people prefer to learn from their own experiences. Others (me included) preferred to learn from others who have been there, done that and got the badge and T-shirt. Hence finding someone who could act as a mentor is a great idea. where about’s in the country are you based?

Kram, no doubt you will ignore this post as well but some people are actually trying to to help you here. Do you not realise that to get you alone in a course for a week to pay for the assessor then they need the numbers to make it work? Nothing wrong with a good mentor. In the meantime why not check out the Art and Science of practical rigging or the Fundementals of general tree work. They might help you gain some knowledge. The kind of thing Alex is mentioning.

And don’t use rock climbing rope.

Took the words right from my keyboard. Kram, on a serious note. The course will teach you something but it is of course a paper exercise for the employers etc. You will get as much out of it as you can if you go in there open minded and don’t try and tell the instructor he is doing it wrong or you know a better way to do it. There are many ways to skin a cat as the saying goes. But if your on a cat skinning course then listen to what the instructor is trying to tell you.

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haha. Are you implying the '5-0' are part of a firm or hooligans?

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