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good question....because i love my country its tradtions, culture and pepole...only a coward would jump ship.

oh dear ive been rumbled....looks like il be sent to siberia now...better get me coat:biggrin:

you may not be a pedo, criminal or terrorist....but what happens when you disagree with some policy in the future or disagree with a goverment or legslative law..then you will be classed as a crimminal,dissenter.just because now your "ok" does not mean you will be ok in the future. I was always under the impression you were inocent until proven guilty..were now veiwed as guilty and have to be proved inocent by snooping.A goverment that does not trust you is a goverment not to be trusted. oh yes i am at it again...and will carry on to wake pepole up to whats happening.frankly i dont give a hoot what pepole think. pepole got laughed at when they said the world was round..."round....dont be stupid evreyone knows its flat".

this may be of intrest. Proved: There is No Climate Crisis | Press

If you value your privacy and liberty sign the petition. The home office wants a bill to snoop on your emails,internet and mobile calls...how much more freedom do you want to lose pepole? 38 Degrees | Campaigns

climate change or is it global warming or is it ozone depletion the shadow goverment cant make its mind up..either way its bull. Just another pychological tool to put fear into pepole and control them..oh and tax them to the hilt so the bankers cant get even more money and power.The world is warming naturaly because were coming out of an ice age. Enough said..case closed.

you be a sheep then tony being led to the slaughter house...il pass on that:sneaky2:

still think Ken clarke has your best intrests at heart...this is the guy who has come back from bilderberg and this is his quote from radio 4 this week. taken from the pepoles pledge website, who want an EU referrendum.

report from russian tv (RT) about bilderberg 2012. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3l0WkQe4JE&feature=player_embedded]Bilderberg: the covert globalist government? - YouTube[/ame] also ken clarke justice minister was there..doing what..come on even the most staunch goverment lover should be asking what was he doing there..we should be demanding awnsers.

that sounds right Al. you forget taking over the world by turning it into a global corporation...war and invasion is so yesterday.

opinion expressed and noted,,,glad you got one...thank you andy.

well i am posting it in the lounge Andy where we talk about non tree stuff, politics, religion i dont see what the fuss is?

:congrats::congrats: have seen that lee...what the F is all that about?

Thoughts please? royality, world and big bankers, big CEOs of corporations like google, goldman sachs , tony blair, MPs , prince philip just to name a few ecte have been meeting in secret for more than 50 years and deny they do yet proof is they have..there at again this thursday. what do they talk about do you think? the latetest episode of eastenders:001_tt2:

taken from presstv... Being an aviation consultant myself I would ask “Is the purpose of having missiles on top of large apartment blocks to stop a possible hijacked airliner from crashing into or near the Olympic Arena”? My second question would be “What devastation do you think would take place if they took out an aircraft with such a missile over central London”…this concept is absolutely flawed!! Lord Carlisle a government’s independent reviewer of anti-terror laws said, “Having a frigate in the Thames is an extremely good idea”. Sources also believe unmanned Reaper robot drones, such as those in use in Afghanistan, will be flown in 2012 for surveillance…come on guys stop all this bullshit and admit this is all about spreading the “False War against Terrorism” it all about “Spreading Islamophobia Hysteria” throughout this country and finally to implement stronger laws to make this country a police state.(end quote) my view excatly...you got more chance of being struck by lightining TWICE than being involved in a so called 'terror' attack.bull!! goverment bull!!

seems the dictators the european commission are going to put a president one man in charge of europe now..without our vote or consent...were even being excluded from the talks.... Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: EU plot to scrap Britain federal europe is trying to geta grip and were letting the swines in. first europe...then the united americas..i see a world goverment trying to form. please join the dots folks.

thats from one christian perspective, im not a christian.You dont have to see it from a christian pespective to see it. tell me skyhuck, your poking fun at the idea is this down to lack of investigation or fear? pepole that fear what they dont understand usally poke fun.if you have looked at the evidence and intellectualy debated it fair enough. the way i see it if im wrong fair enough i look like an idiot, if im right i would have made pepole aware of it.

clever...now if they link cash with terrorisim they can get rid of cash and make everything electronic.....good ole terrorisim (not) the politicans great exscuse to bring in any law they want.put money on your phone its easier...opps you can loose your phone better put in you skin. Biometric ID Cards Replace Cash - Mark Of The Beast.flv - YouTube!

this is my piont in a lot of my posts folks...what may be ok to us now, could become a "offence" in years to come and we would have opened a bag of nasties. glad we agreed on something Andy lol.

the EU the dictartorship no body voted for..wants more money from us the tax payer:thumbdown: £925 million from us, the hard working, taxed to death..already struggling to live with austerity laden nation. there nothing but dictators little mini hitlers.what the nazi failed to do during 2 world wars europe is manging now..destruction of nations from within by treaties no wanted voted for! Brussels sparks outrage by demanding a 6.8% rise in the EU budget | The Sun |News|Politics this money goes on intrest owed to the ecb (european central bank)... greedy bankers strike again.... vote UKIP to get us out of the EU.

without breaking the offical secrets act which i signed and what i heard and saw on ops in the gulf....i cant possiable awnser. all i know is there are always 2 sides to a story and i was taught to look at all the evidence no matter how bizzare and weigh up the reailty of it, look at trends,,think about human behaviour, historic trends..and then just join the dots. most goverments no matter where and who want to control the population..thats why there are laws..it just makes perfect sense to me that tracking you and watching your moves with a microchip gives more control. question: do you control your kids or just let them do what they want?if they turned on you you would lose your power,status, control. Why should goverments be any different? the evidence is all on the web if you have the humilty to look, if pepole did not question anything we would all still be living in caves.

we dont live in fear..just are more awake sheep.baa baa:biggrin:

my question rich is who watches the goverment? their is to much evidence to suggest that 911 and 77 were an inside job or allowed to happen to further a more darker deeper agenda. Just because they are the goverment does not mean their right.I bet the german pepole thought the nazis were right. there are to many parts of the jigsaw about 911 that dont add up...check them on the web. as for our precious nhs, yes we are lucky, but dont forget the goverment wants to privatise it..its going to become a private company run for profit not for pepole. thanks for your comments rich:001_smile:

this is the piont...you got to make a stand.vote out the corupt mps....take your money out of the banks and dont use them if you can i know that is hard for some...but dont consent to everything your told. get some cold weather gear and live in the urals in russia:001_tt2: