Professional Body's?

[oslac]

He didn't say he wanted 'the', he said he was looking for plural.

 

Edit; And he is from Holland.

 

I think the ICF is the only professional body for arboriculture in the UK. The rest and the AA included are trade bodies who wrap themselves up as a professional body. This is why the AA has gone down the road of linking in with the Chartered Environmentalists.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I used to have a professional body but I'm old and fat now .

 

:lol:

[Gary Prentice]

I think the ICF is the only professional body for arboriculture in the UK. The rest and the AA included are trade bodies who wrap themselves up as a professional body. This is why the AA has gone down the road of linking in with the Chartered Environmentalists.

 

They are and are the only ones who can be (the ICF) because the Queen won't give anyone else the ability to award chartered status. The ICF started out under a different name that highlighted arboriculturists/arboriculture.

 

Although the AA is a trade body, it seems a poor, derogatory title for an organization that's overcome its historic internal issues and now does so much to advance arboriculture in the UK.

[Gary Prentice]

Glad you took it in the spirit is was intended.

 

Always.

 

But you should have seen the response I wrote and didn't post:lol:

[oslac]

They are and are the only ones who can be (the ICF) because the Queen won't give anyone else the ability to award chartered status. The ICF started out under a different name that highlighted arboriculturists/arboriculture.

 

Although the AA is a trade body, it seems a poor, derogatory title for an organization that's overcome its historic internal issues and now does so much to advance arboriculture in the UK.

 

Maybe but whilst the AA excludes promotion for their own Members at the expense of Registered Consultants, it is not acting like a professional body.

 

It is unlikely that the Queen, as you say but actually the Privee Council will confer professional status on the AA for the same Members as the IFC because it is not to do with how wonderful the AA is but about profesionalism and part of the requirements of the professional body is to act as the lead consultant to the Government which can not be carried out by two seperate organizations.

 

It is similar to Landscape Architecture where the professional body is the Landscape Institute and BALI is a trade body which actually does fantastic things to support and market the landscape industry. BALI, as with the AA confers post-nominals on its Members which make people think it is a professional body.

[felixthelogchopper]

Always.

 

But you should have seen the response I wrote and didn't post:lol:

 

[Chris at eden]

Sorry for being a pedant. :001_tongue:The AA are IMO a lot more 'user friendly' and approachable.

 

I did the PME training for chartered arb a few weeks ago ad found them very approachable and friendly.

[siewart]

Hi, thanks for replying. I am mainly looking for different professional body's that have something to do or a connection with the Arboriculture industry. So I have now the AA and the ICF but are there more? And were to find information about them. Also World Wide ones like the ISA. Thanks

 

Also what means IMO?

[Will Heal]

Try the FCA forestry contracting association. IMO means in my opinion

[Jon Heuch]

They are and are the only ones who can be (the ICF) because the Queen won't give anyone else the ability to award chartered status. The ICF started out under a different name that highlighted arboriculturists/arboriculture. Although the AA is a trade body, it seems a poor, derogatory title for an organization that's overcome its historic internal issues and now does so much to advance arboriculture in the UK.

 

 

Whilst there may be exclusivity over the use of the word "Chartered" a profession can have as many professional bodies as it wants.....since it depends on members renewing memberships normally on an annual basis it's a simple market forces thing - if people thought the AA wasn't worth joining it wouldn't exist. As it happens membership has increased (as it has for the ICF too) so it must be doing something right.

 

If you're interested in the Chartered thing there has been an interesting dispute in court recently over the Chartered Project Management Institute with two bodies arguing over who should get the Chartered status - the large US based one or the smaller UK based one.

 

The whole issue of whether the AA is a trade body or a professional body or both....or neither is an interesting discussion. It clearly isn't a trade body in the normal sense of that term in that it doesn't promote the trades of the vast majority of members but it does promote both Approved Contractors and Registered Consultants. For similar reasons it's not a professional body in that the majority of members are not veted as competent so....not promoted. But it is the only body to cross across interest groups as a membership body.

 

WIP: Work in Progress.......