When should i jump ship?

[Orchard]

Morning

Early last year i bought a 2008 ford ranger double cab 96k on clock (full history, 2 owners). Being my first proper half decent truck i got its oils, filters, tyres and belts changed and got it undersealed etc, then i bought a N&J Aluminium linings chip box/canopy for the back and got it stickered up with my company logo etc. A few months later on a long drive down to france it jumped out of 5th gear by the time i got home i was holding it in with my knee. This continued on to the point where a new gearbox was required as there was too much damage and the labour in repairing it was going to be somewhere near a genuine ford recon box (which was the same price as a recon box from other firms too). So i got the box changed put a new clutch in, the flywheel was also buggered so that got changed also! So i though thats it i have spent good money on it it should be fine for a good while now.....Yesterday smell of diff oil when walking past it, i looked under to find oil pissing out the front diff drive shaft oil seals. On closer inspection i find the diff bearings are away also, so it requires a bit of a rebuild so it needs more money spent! So i just dont know what to do now, i have spent loads on it and feel like i cant turn back now but then i think what will happen next!! So i thought i'd ask those who may have been there and done it before me which i am sure some will have! Any advice cheers.

Truck 5000

canopy 800

Oils, filters, belts 700

underseal 200

stickers, chevrons 350

gearbox, flywheel, clutch etc 4000

 

cheers

[hamdogg]

Sounds like a Friday motor

[treequip]

Sounds like a Friday motor

 

A bit unfair really Its an 08 plate motor that could have any sore of history behind it. If it were new with problems possibly but its a used car

[Orchard]

I think it's had a reasonable life, it's mileage seams correct, the 1st owner owned a double glazing firm so guessing it was a way of getting a vat reclaimable truck as I can't see why you would need a 4x4 and the second owner was a forester so probably long drives up and down forest tracks and shitty roads etc.

[treequip]

Morning

Early last year i bought a 2008 ford ranger double cab 96k on clock (full history, 2 owners). Being my first proper half decent truck i got its oils, filters, tyres and belts changed and got it undersealed etc, then i bought a N&J Aluminium linings chip box/canopy for the back and got it stickered up with my company logo etc. A few months later on a long drive down to france it jumped out of 5th gear by the time i got home i was holding it in with my knee. This continued on to the point where a new gearbox was required as there was too much damage and the labour in repairing it was going to be somewhere near a genuine ford recon box (which was the same price as a recon box from other firms too). So i got the box changed put a new clutch in, the flywheel was also buggered so that got changed also! So i though thats it i have spent good money on it it should be fine for a good while now.....Yesterday smell of diff oil when walking past it, i looked under to find oil pissing out the front diff drive shaft oil seals. On closer inspection i find the diff bearings are away also, so it requires a bit of a rebuild so it needs more money spent! So i just dont know what to do now, i have spent loads on it and feel like i cant turn back now but then i think what will happen next!! So i thought i'd ask those who may have been there and done it before me which i am sure some will have! Any advice cheers.

Truck 5000

canopy 800

Oils, filters, belts 700

underseal 200

stickers, chevrons 350

gearbox, flywheel, clutch etc 4000

 

cheers

 

OK lets look at this objectively, Canopy was your choice and has (presumably) improved the vehicle for your purposes so its an upgrade and needs to be taken put of the equation. Oils filters and belts are standard running costs so put them into that column.

Underseals are similarly an upgrade.

Signs and stickers are also an upgrade.

The clutch and flywheel are also consumables

 

So when you boil it down you are actually into this car for the worn running gear, if you decide to out it, you are going to need to replace or with a same model and age so your upgrades fit and you are getting into another unknown quantity.

 

If you are planning on getting rid soon anyway then take the hit and get out now, otherwise stay with it. Motoring costs money.

[Goaty]

The above is true. I spent £500 last year on getting my 2000 plate escort van through mot. The garage said buy another van.

I went with the fact I knew what the van had already had done. Buying someone else's problems is time consuming.I'm looking at a 4x4 pickup replacement long term. As yet have not had the financial priority to get one.

£500 is cheap motoring as many allow thousands per year in depreciation. That's without maintainence.

Id probably stick with your motor until you are flush.

Many change for brand new every 3 years to avoid repairs etc.

[Orchard]

OK lets look at this objectively, Canopy was your choice and has (presumably) improved the vehicle for your purposes so its an upgrade and needs to be taken put of the equation. Oils filters and belts are standard running costs so put them into that column.

 

Underseals are similarly an upgrade.

 

Signs and stickers are also an upgrade.

 

The clutch and flywheel are also consumables

 

 

 

So when you boil it down you are actually into this car for the worn running gear, if you decide to out it, you are going to need to replace or with a same model and age so your upgrades fit and you are getting into another unknown quantity.

 

 

 

If you are planning on getting rid soon anyway then take the hit and get out now, otherwise stay with it. Motoring costs money.

 

 

Thanks for this its helped me see it a bit clearer.

[R Mac]

I'm with the 'stick With It' side, ok a definite sickener having to replace the gearbox no question about that but look at it this way the original box done almost 100k so depending on your mileage if the new box does the same how many years driving are you looking at.

 

Service items don't really count and you probably wouldn't even consider them had it not been for the gearbox issue.

 

Front diff? again how many miles has it done already, if it's the original diff treat it like the gearbox, once rebuilt it should be good for a fair few 1000 miles.

 

Ok so you're looking at an 08 pick-up that's really cost you 9k rather than 5k but from here on in (after a year of ownership) it's going to cost every year you own it and in that it's no different to any other vehicle used or new. You either spend on maintainence or you lose in depreciation. Also since you bought your's every other truck out there that's newer than yours has had a years extra mileage on it since you bought yours and each one is getting closer to having the same problems that you've already dealt with.

 

Finally, remember if you sell it because you're sick of it that your 'Old' truck is going to be the next guys 'New' truck and he'll be delighted with it (as you probably were when you bought it although the previous owner probably had lost interest in it) especially as it's had a new gearbox and a rebuilt front axle.

 

I've been the guy who after the initial 'Love affair' with 'my' new car got fed up with it, didn't look after it, didn't wash it, let rubbish gather inside it etc etc, sold it and next thing you see it in the hands of the new owner and it's clean and had a bit of polish and he's pleased as punch with 'his' new car.

[Orchard]

I'm with the 'stick With It' side, ok a definite sickener having to replace the gearbox no question about that but look at it this way the original box done almost 100k so depending on your mileage if the new box does the same how many years driving are you looking at.

 

 

 

Service items don't really count and you probably wouldn't even consider them had it not been for the gearbox issue.

 

 

 

Front diff? again how many miles has it done already, if it's the original diff treat it like the gearbox, once rebuilt it should be good for a fair few 1000 miles.

 

 

 

Ok so you're looking at an 08 pick-up that's really cost you 9k rather than 5k but from here on in (after a year of ownership) it's going to cost every year you own it and in that it's no different to any other vehicle used or new. You either spend on maintainence or you lose in depreciation. Also since you bought your's every other truck out there that's newer than yours has had a years extra mileage on it since you bought yours and each one is getting closer to having the same problems that you've already dealt with.

 

 

 

Finally, remember if you sell it because you're sick of it that your 'Old' truck is going to be the next guys 'New' truck and he'll be delighted with it (as you probably were when you bought it although the previous owner probably had lost interest in it) especially as it's had a new gearbox and a rebuilt front axle.

 

 

 

I've been the guy who after the initial 'Love affair' with 'my' new car got fed up with it, didn't look after it, didn't wash it, let rubbish gather inside it etc etc, sold it and next thing you see it in the hands of the new owner and it's clean and had a bit of polish and he's pleased as punch with 'his' new car.

 

 

Thanks for this, I certainly feel that it would be typical that if I sold it the next guy would get trouble free motoring or near enough! Something I never took into account is maintenance/repairs against depreciation. Mine has done its depreciating by now. I think I'll ride the storm!

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

OK lets look at this objectively, Canopy was your choice and has (presumably) improved the vehicle for your purposes so its an upgrade and needs to be taken put of the equation. Oils filters and belts are standard running costs so put them into that column.

Underseals are similarly an upgrade.

Signs and stickers are also an upgrade.

The clutch and flywheel are also consumables

 

So when you boil it down you are actually into this car for the worn running gear, if you decide to out it, you are going to need to replace or with a same model and age so your upgrades fit and you are getting into another unknown quantity.

 

If you are planning on getting rid soon anyway then take the hit and get out now, otherwise stay with it. Motoring costs money.

 

Damn flywheels shouldn't be consumables but I know they are.

 

I hate money pit vehicles; some folks seem to buy trucks, treat them like crap and never have a thing go wrong with them. Others service fastidiously and the blesséd thing just craps out for more...