Spiking choking climbing line

[briscoe]

when spiking on a pole during a dismantle is there a way of choking the climbing line so that it will grip the pole should you slip off spikes.

 

I currently use a steel core flip line on both side ds and have my main climbing line around the stem just below. However I feel if slip out spikes my climbing line/flip line wouldn't grip the stem sufficiently to prevent a fall.

 

Ive heard of people using a running bowline on there climbing line to choke the stem. Could someone explain this method?

[IVECOKID]

Youtube Running bowline and how to tie a bowline , very simple and effective I also use a fig8 attached with a prussik attached to my harnesses strap on my leg has a backup.

Also checkout different ways of using your wire flip line .

 

 

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Edited December 11, 2015 by IVECOKID

[Luckyeleven]

Just cross the flip line over? I.e take it from the left of the trunk and clip it to your right d-ring?

[Coletti]

As long as your main line is tight around the stem you shouldn't go anywhere. If you still don't trust it, as suggested, cross your strop or wrap it round the stem

[stihlmadasever]

I use a prussik on my climbing line on the stem,if your still

unsure- as above figure 8 your flipline.

[Thesnarlingbadger]

You can always wrap you main line around the trunk and clip it back to itself with a crab.

But to be honest I've had spikes slip before and never once fallen far. You may get a bit of a grazed chin though.

[briscoe]

If you tie a running bowline into your climbing line and use the loop to choke the stem would the idea be not to clip back into your termination knot/eye? Would it be possible /safe to descend like this if required in emergency?(static line).

[Thesnarlingbadger]

If you tie a running bowline into your climbing line and use the loop to choke the stem would the idea be not to clip back into your termination knot/eye? Would it be possible /safe to descend like this if required in emergency?(static line).

 

 

Got a bit lost here, but maybe it's because I've had a couple. But imagine this image below as your climbing line around the trunk, you could effectively use a carabiner instead of the bowline to make things a bit quicker (I find). In the second pick you get the idea, without the extra loop around the trunk.

Then your friction device below attached to your harness. And if this is what your on about then yes you can descend on it in and emergency or not.

If I'm choking down a big stem all day and need a brake in between I set this up and get down and it's all set up to get back up quickly without walking back up on spikes.

Pics are from the net not mine I'll add

[briscoe]

Thanks that's what I was after. My friction device is just a prussik so not sure how easy it would be to climb back up on . I think this running bowline as a backup to flip line when spiking is now part of npt c cs38 or 39 ? Cheers

[Mark Bolam]

Have you tried descending on a single line with a Prussik?

Try it.

It's possible, but it's a bitch.

Fig 8 is a cheap option for emergency bailout.