Small mill for occasional use. Recomendations?

[sandspider]

Just out of curiousity (and thoughts for the future), when you say very inexpensive what sort of cashish are we talking? Thanks.

[Big J]

About £3500 plus VAT and UK delivery. That is on the basis that I can get 5 people to buy one of the basic mills. The haulage from Poland is around £2600 and it's obviously much more economical to put 5 mills on a wagon. Having seen or used a lot of small manual sawmills, there is a lot more steel in these than any other. It's standard with a 7.5kw three phase motor, but I can speak to them about a small petrol or diesel power plant if there is enough interest.

[youcallthatbig]

If you don't want to hire somebody like myself with 20 years of experience of milling to come and convert your timber, why don't you hire a mill from Ben Burgess in Norwich so you can evaluate whether a small band mill is the way to go over a chainsaw powered unit

[sandspider]

About £3500 plus VAT and UK delivery. That is on the basis that I can get 5 people to buy one of the basic mills. The haulage from Poland is around £2600 and it's obviously much more economical to put 5 mills on a wagon. Having seen or used a lot of small manual sawmills, there is a lot more steel in these than any other. It's standard with a 7.5kw three phase motor, but I can speak to them about a small petrol or diesel power plant if there is enough interest.

 

Cheers. To be fair, it does look like a lot of mill for that money. Probably more mill than I'll ever need, and too static. Interesting though...

[arboriculturist]

About £3500 plus VAT and UK delivery. That is on the basis that I can get 5 people to buy one of the basic mills. The haulage from Poland is around £2600 and it's obviously much more economical to put 5 mills on a wagon. Having seen or used a lot of small manual sawmills, there is a lot more steel in these than any other. It's standard with a 7.5kw three phase motor, but I can speak to them about a small petrol or diesel power plant if there is enough interest.

 

Like they say J - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

 

I am in the very unfortunate position that I only have 1 phase. >1000 metres to a 3 phase location.

 

Digital converter, Diesel - what are your thoughts?

[Big J]

Like they say J - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

 

I am in the very unfortunate position that I only have 1 phase. >1000 metres to a 3 phase location.

 

Digital converter, Diesel - what are your thoughts?

 

For that size of mill, diesel might be prohibitively expensive. Petrol would be a better bet.

 

Sadly, with an electric mill it's not just a simple case of switching the electric motor for a petrol one - all the motors for head movement, hydrualics etc are electric and 380v. They need to do it to crack into the UK market, but it's a significant undertaking.

[arboriculturist]

For that size of mill, diesel might be prohibitively expensive. Petrol would be a better bet.

 

Sadly, with an electric mill it's not just a simple case of switching the electric motor for a petrol one - all the motors for head movement, hydrualics etc are electric and 380v. They need to do it to crack into the UK market, but it's a significant undertaking.

 

So its a phase converter or nothing. Do you know the total Kw requirement for the 600 and yours?

 

3rd option - used diesel generator. As you know they are available if tricky to source.

[Big J]

I have a 50kva generator. It was going to be a new one, but a delivery delay meant I cancelled it and bought a very low hours used genset.

 

There are advantages with electric - it's extremely quiet and the torque is very impressive. The little mill has a 7.5kw main motor, which would need a 12-15kva genset (a guess).

[arboriculturist]

I have a 50kva generator. It was going to be a new one, but a delivery delay meant I cancelled it and bought a very low hours used genset.

 

There are advantages with electric - it's extremely quiet and the torque is very impressive. The little mill has a 7.5kw main motor, which would need a 12-15kva genset (a guess).

 

Ah, sounds promising. Appears that there are plenty of Diesel 3 phase around 25-30 kva around 5k - so that's ideal.

 

So looking like genset 5K +vat

 

Mill 15K +vat

 

Carriage to uk and in UK to me?

 

Import duty etc ?

 

Installation 2K

 

What is carriage likely to be on your mill?

 

Do these figures appear consistent with reality ?

 

Thanks

[Big J]

That's maybe a bit high on the genset cost. Mine wasn't quite that and it's 50kva.

 

Mill at £15k get's you fully hydraulic and wide cutting head, as well as some extra hydraulics/tools.

 

Dedicated transport would be required for a mill that size (might squeeze something else on) and would be about £2500. Was about £2000, but migrant issues in Calais build cost.

 

Installation cost was a tough higher for me as I put a £2800 concrete pad in.

 

You are very close to reality though. Pays off quickly enough though - in the next month I have the value of the mill and generator in orders waiting to be cut. Mostly softwood with a lorry load of elm thrown in for good measure.

 

Ah, sounds promising. Appears that there are plenty of Diesel 3 phase around 25-30 kva around 5k - so that's ideal.

 

So looking like genset 5K +vat

 

Mill 15K +vat

 

Carriage to uk and in UK to me?

 

Import duty etc ?

 

Installation 2K

 

What is carriage likely to be on your mill?

 

Do these figures appear consistent with reality ?

 

Thanks