Inspection sheets

[Marc]

Well Marc, there is working hard and there is working smart, both get the job done, but I disgree-hard work never killed anyone, but hard work leaves a lot less room for errors

-Honestly, up until late, did you notice how fast plumbers, brickies, fitters in car workshops move ? They are all on more than us / on the same mortgages with the same home pressures. Ive worked in this industry a bloody long time, the guys who work well, have the right kit 'AND LOOK AFTER IT ' -think forwards an plan stuff are the ones who make the real cash. Those guys who flog their pan out fr every job, 'cos that's what it is' just end up worn out / broke / injured or just end up in a box sooner.

 

K

 

I agree we work hard and the money isn't there considering the highly skilled work we do that not many are cut out for. I earn good money and happy but as always feel i deserve higher renumeration for what i do, but that wasn't what we was discussing.

If attitudes toward work are to change and the industry as a whole we need to progress, we need to get better at our jobs more skilled and professionally run as a whole, maybe one day it will happen hopefully before i retire.

Arborist in other countries are payed equal to that of other skilled professions.

[BenC]

quick update just to let everyone know I found the label I was looking for once I got over my brain fart:thumbup:

[Marc]

I understand what your saying. I check my gear before use takes about 15-20 mins now I have to fill in the paper war adds another 10 mins realisticly, I the have to go in the office, they check my checks, cross reference with their paper war and photocopy the check sheet and add it to the file, about 30-45 mins. Theres about an hour gone there where you could have been working. Doing site clearence work esp. at the moment where the jobs are priced under the going rates, equals less time and less men to win the tender do the job already, then minus that hour per day and the huge amount of pressure to complete the job on time from managment equals stupid decisions and cutting corners. Catch 22. Personally Im use to upsetting managment but others arnt. It just fustrates me when the aim of the extra paper war is to save themselves rather than save lives

 

Thats just stupid ineffcient and is losing the company money, not that i care if what your saying is true they need a good hard slap and told to stand in the corner.

Risk assesments take about 5 minutes before each job (this is all the paperwork we do and is only done by one person whilst others get set-up), we rarely brief those on site as that is just patronising as we all know how to do the job well, only newer workers are looked after/guided and kept an eye on to make sure they work safe and intergrate into the team.

 

As for loler I tick my weekly inspection sheet but do not sit there and go through my kit checking every karabiner to make sure it closes properly or that any of my ropes/slings are damaged, as i do this every single day and before and during every climb, if a gate is sticky i'll clean it later (I have spares) if a rope is damged i'll retire it, again i have a spare. The paperwork for my loler takes me 5-10minutes at the end of or begining of the week, i'll note any kit retired from use or anything else as needed.

I know this is not exactly in the spirit of loler, in my opinion though its enough and leaves a paper trail to prove you've been checking and retiring as needed.

 

 

Its really very very simple as it should be.

[Marc]

Yeah i know the attitude, i forgot this was down to recent events, perserver and hopefully thing will change for the better.

Edited August 26, 2009 by Steve Bullman

[RobArb]

i honestly and very much doubt that

[coolie]

Paperwork. Checks. Audits. Meetings. Tree Assessments. Time Pressure. Safety. It all sounds too familiar.

Speaking from an employees perspective in a supervisory role,I have learnt that you have to build it all into the equation.

It would be a common practice for myself when asked how long will a project take to give a reply like 10 man days on site plus another 2 man days for meetings etc. It is the reality of the situation. It helps to avoid overruns and time pressure. I hope this helps someone.