Inspection sheets

[BenC]

oops on the face at the begining

[BenC]

O'k rather than make you work for it i'll tell you, its on the left leg loop.

 

Nope not there. The only other bit of info Ive got is an 8"x4" piece of card with the art no and reg no on it but deffo no lable even taken all the pads off

[Ian Leach]

Can't you put your own number on it and date of purchase eg har001

[Highland Forestry]

:cursing:Its less than 2 months old but I thought I would make a start with the records so I didnt have loads of paper war in one hit. Besides the inspection sheet have to marry up with the item some how as Ive been told my krabs need permanent markings so they cannot be mistaken for other ones that look similar:w00t:. 1 sheet for 1 item. bollox:cursing:

 

Welcome to the corporate machine

[Andy Clark]

Indeed.

 

But surely you would use what ever ID has been used on the LOLER Cert on the daily sheet.

 

"Traceability", is the magic word in this scenario....

 

There has to be some "traceability" that ensures the piece of kit in your hand, corresponds with the piece of kit on the record sheet.

 

If the original serial number etc has worn off, then the kit/piece of equipment still needs some form of identification that would correspond with the inspection record.

 

Eg.... serial number worn off..... Krab marked with red insulating tape..... recorded on written inspection that "serial number worn off, Krab marked with red tape"

 

That mentality and process should then follow on throughout the life of that particular piece of equipment, so that the written record eventually builds into a complete and comprehensive history....

 

eg... red tape falls off.... replaced with yellow tape..... recorded on written inspection sheet that "red tape fell off, replaced with yellow tape"

 

And that goes for worn out/replaced kit too....

 

Say for example you replace a Krab or Prussik... As long as you note on the record that "red tape Krab removed from service, replaced with Krab s/no ABC123", then the record is up to date, and should just keep rolling on consecutively.

 

 

Eventually, the kit record should end up like Triggers broom in that "Only Fools and Horses" sketch.....

 

'Had the same broom for 15 years..... Yep, it's had 48 new heads, and 36 new handles' (or words to that effect. )

 

[Arbocop]

site agent not saying what site but its the paper trail they want for the blame game!!!!

There has been a few fatal accidents on site involving other trades and apparently heads rolled now they ve been on h&s courses and up to speed on all the laws or so they would have you believe. Last month they would ask, you would answer, and watch there eyes glaze over then they would leave you alone. But not now

 

its over zelous, miss applied rubbish like this that gets H&S a bad name, my brother is in top end construction health and safty and is currently building flates for the london authority that had the terrible fatalities in the fire a few weeks agao.

 

all hell has decended and he now has an over zelouse council bod doing xactly that over applying and making things worse.

 

the irony is the HSE construction team have used his site in information as a site of excellence and now they have a twonk ripping it to bits.

 

as with all of these things, paperwork systems are vital and important but not at the scrifice of good culture and behavuoiral safty

 

pleees guys dont think the regs actually require this LOLER does not nor does the W@H regs unless some geek over applys

 

depressed but smiling

 

kev

[Khriss]

What a ridiculous hassal.... This sort of thing gets to me.... If you have to do things like this it means you will spend less time actually checking the gear for safety and more time ticking boxes....

 

Does a lot of the stuff we do for Health and Safety actually mean you work in a safer working environment? Does it alter how you do a job? Does it reduce risk?

 

I know it's supposed to do all the above but does it? I am all for making the work we do as safe/minimal risk... but Health and Safety exercises in tree work I would say could even have the opposite effect.

 

We should be trained and competent to do what we do. We should use well maintained equipment and the right people/equipment for the appropriate job. If you're not doing this you shouldn't be doing the job. We should not have to tick boxes on the chance of a court case arising.... that's not improving our health and safety - it's just covering our arses!

 

Had written a lot more but have deleted it!

 

Yup to thaaat-I am hanging my life of ov it-If I think it's safe that moment -then it is. All this 'stuff' is just to allow corporate business to weasel out of a huge injury claim -save the cash for their shiny-assed share holders. This applies right across industry- but you never see the new boots / saw trousers appear when you need them - (gggrrrowwwl)

 

K

 

PS -Injuries usually occur when staff are stressed and overworked-NOT just if there is a kit failure -so when is THIS gonna be addressed -huh - HUH!

Edited August 20, 2009 by Khriss
Cos I was in a red rage ! Or the tea was late.....same thing rely

[Marc]

 

PS -Injuries usually occur when staff are stressed and overworked-NOT just if there is a kit failure -so when is THIS gonna be addressed -huh - HUH!

 

Being stressed overworked leading to fatigue does increase the chances of you being vunerable to accident. Only this is what treework is about we work hard, get expossed to stressful situations, it up to us as individuals and as a team to limit this.

Its been tougher lately, there is less money on jobs with more pressure to be productive to achieve the same targets, work hasn't been quite as fun and laid back as we push to complete jobs on time. I don't feel though that I or the teams i work with are exposed to a greater chance of injury, know your limits look out for each other and stay work safe.

My opinion is injuries are caused more by unsafe working practice and poor kit, not pressure and fatigue as these are reduce when you work effciently with good kit.

 

All the injuries I have seen or heard about are 90% down to somebody doing something wrong or bad kit, not once have i heard of someone injuring themselves because they worked to hard or was overworked (which i totally disagree with we are only flesh and bone and have limits i'll never overwork myself, but then i can be very productive by working smarter)

[BenC]

Being stressed overworked leading to fatigue does increase the chances of you being vunerable to accident. Only this is what treework is about we work hard, get expossed to stressful situations, it up to us as individuals and as a team to limit this.

Its been tougher lately, there is less money on jobs with more pressure to be productive to achieve the same targets, work hasn't been quite as fun and laid back as we push to complete jobs on time. I don't feel though that I or the teams i work with are exposed to a greater chance of injury, know your limits look out for each other and stay work safe.

My opinion is injuries are caused more by unsafe working practice and poor kit, not pressure and fatigue as these are reduce when you work effciently with good kit.

 

All the injuries I have seen or heard about are 90% down to somebody doing something wrong or bad kit, not once have i heard of someone injuring themselves because they worked to hard or was overworked (which i totally disagree with we are only flesh and bone and have limits i'll never overwork myself, but then i can be very productive by working smarter)

 

I understand what your saying. I check my gear before use takes about 15-20 mins now I have to fill in the paper war adds another 10 mins realisticly, I the have to go in the office, they check my checks, cross reference with their paper war and photocopy the check sheet and add it to the file, about 30-45 mins. Theres about an hour gone there where you could have been working. Doing site clearence work esp. at the moment where the jobs are priced under the going rates, equals less time and less men to win the tender do the job already, then minus that hour per day and the huge amount of pressure to complete the job on time from managment equals stupid decisions and cutting corners. Catch 22. Personally Im use to upsetting managment but others arnt. It just fustrates me when the aim of the extra paper war is to save themselves rather than save lives

[Khriss]

Well Marc, there is working hard and there is working smart, both get the job done, but I disgree-hard work never killed anyone, but hard work leaves a lot less room for errors

-Honestly, up until late, did you notice how fast plumbers, brickies, fitters in car workshops move ? They are all on more than us / on the same mortgages with the same home pressures. Ive worked in this industry a bloody long time, the guys who work well, have the right kit 'AND LOOK AFTER IT ' -think forwards an plan stuff are the ones who make the real cash. Those guys who flog their pan out fr every job, 'cos that's what it is' just end up worn out / broke / injured or just end up in a box sooner.

 

K