Using sub contractors

[Djvicke1]

What if the lads you employ on some jobs don't have their own insurance (they work on powerlines PAYE and do weekend work) but you have public and employers insurance?

[hamdogg]

Then there covered with your EL insurance

[Djvicke1]

phew

[mwncillifio]

Hi.

Im a subby ground worker and climber.

I've been working for the same firm mostly for some time on both Utilities and private work.

 

The question of insurance and liablity has been on my mind but I havn't discussed it at all with the boss so to speak.

 

Only once I have caused damage to a customer's property (cracked gutter) from a stray branch on a dismantle on a windy day.

I was made to pay for the damage £48 in materials, 2hrs on a saturday morning and a good lecture! Which wasn't a bad thing because it's taught me to be more carefull and never underestimate wind power

Cost me more than half of my day's earnings which gives a rough idea of what I get paid (under review)

I use all my own saws, climbing kit..........the boss supplies the fuel and the transport to the jobs from the yard.

 

It is a question that i must raise with him to clear all the grey areas.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

  mwncillifio said:

Hi.

Im a subby ground worker and climber.

I've been working for the same firm mostly for some time on both Utilities and private work.

 

The question of insurance and liablity has been on my mind but I havn't discussed it at all with the boss so to speak.

 

Only once I have caused damage to a customer's property (cracked gutter) from a stray branch on a dismantle on a windy day.

I was made to pay for the damage £48 in materials, 2hrs on a saturday morning and a good lecture! Which wasn't a bad thing because it's taught me to be more carefull and never underestimate wind power ����

Cost me more than half of my day's earnings which gives a rough idea of what I get paid (under review)

I use all my own saws, climbing kit..........the boss supplies the fuel and the transport to the jobs from the yard.

 

It is a question that i must raise with him to clear all the grey areas.

 

From that brief detail it sounds more like "employment" (but without statutory terms & conditions) rather than "self-employment?"

[mwncillifio]

  kevinjohnsonmbe said:

From that brief detail it sounds more like "employment" (but without statutory terms & conditions) rather than "self-employment?"

 

Is 58% of self employed hours for one company classed as "employed"?

[eggsarascal]

  mwncillifio said:

Is 58% of self employed hours for one company classed as "employed"?

 

 

I'm not sure what the percentage is. What do you do when your not working for this one company?

[jaime bray]

Read a document titled esm0500 employment status, on hmrc webpage to ascertain employment status in the eyes of hmrc. Also esm055. Whole list of titles there to determine legalities of varying situations

Edited April 29, 2015 by jaime bray

[mwncillifio]

  eggsarascal said:

I'm not sure what the percentage is. What do you do when your not working for this one company?

 

I do other work for other clients/customers which makes up the other 42% of my self employed hours.

My accounntant has checked this out as i was following a thread about this matter on that. I'm well clear of the employed status.

 

Are we highjacking the EL insurance thread a bit??

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

  mwncillifio said:

Is 58% of self employed hours for one company classed as "employed"?

 

No worries fella, sounds like you're all over it!