Dirty diesels contributing to air pollution

[mendiplogs]

Hi Jon, yeah, I'm not saying other vehicles are better/worse.... but moving out the way of the exhaust is a good idea!

 

Your experience is actually a good example of what is happening in our cities.... some days there is nowhere to escape the fumes (unless you get out of the city).

 

Cheers, steve

 

HI STEVE give me the village life any day and in bath theres houses worth up to £10million steve must be mad:lol: thanks jon

[skyhuck]

But how many would actually pay £100?.... it would stop the majority of people driving in.... so their plan could be working.

cheers, steve

 

So if your rich its ok to kill children, but we don't want the poor doing it

[SteveA]

Saw a program recently were they did an experiment with a pedestrian , a cyclist , and a car driver . All were fitted with polutent moniters in front of thier mouth and nose . All took the same city route . The car driver came of worse than the pedestrian and cyclist by a long way . It comes in through the vents and stays in the car untill the doors are open .

 

Was about to mention the same. cheers, steve

[skyhuck]

Saw a program recently were they did an experiment with a pedestrian , a cyclist , and a car driver . All were fitted with polutent moniters in front of thier mouth and nose . All took the same city route . The car driver came of worse than the pedestrian and cyclist by a long way . It comes in through the vents and stays in the car untill the doors are open .

 

The motorist had obviously not selected recycle on his air con:001_rolleyes:

[SteveA]

So if your rich its ok to kill children, but we don't want the poor doing it

 

It's a practical way of dealing with the problem.... and if it results in far less vehicles in the city that can only be a good thing.

cheers, steve

[Tom D]

Old diesels are the devil...

 

We need to scrap them all and ship them to the 3rd world to be 'recycled' by children.

 

Then we need to replace them with petrol electric hybrids, preferably sourced from all corners of the globe... and obviously replace them every 6 months as new technology becomes available.

 

Consume, replace, discard... its the only way to save the planet

 

Spot on.

 

Which is worse, a 20 year old diesel with 250k on the clock or a brand new hybrid full of rare metals extracted from all around the world?

 

No one ever takes into account the environmental cost of building a car, and the car manufacturers lobby is so powerful that governments do what ever they want. Remember the car scrapage scheme?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the lobbyists haven't influenced the report at the start of this thread.

[SteveA]

Spot on.

 

Which is worse, a 20 year old diesel with 250k on the clock or a brand new hybrid full of rare metals extracted from all around the world?

 

No one ever takes into account the environmental cost of building a car, and the car manufacturers lobby is so powerful that governments do what ever they want. Remember the car scrapage scheme?

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the lobbyists haven't influenced the report at the start of this thread.

 

Both are worst and neither contributes a positive solution. cheers, steve

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

"Keeping the dirtiest vehicles off our streets....

 

The UK Government needs to keep the dirtiest vehicles out of towns and cities. As you would expect, industry has recently launched a fight-back against the evidence that diesel is bad for people's health. Diesel car makers cite the latest European emissions standards which they claim will limit dangers to human health.

 

Sadly, engines which meet these standards under test conditions fall far short in real life. Until these laboratory successes are seen on the road, it will be very difficult for the public to have the same level of confidence as the industry seems to have in its vehicles.

 

ClientEarth's issue is not with the diesel car industry, just as it isn't with the millions of drivers who were incentivised to buy diesel vehicles under the discredited idea that it was better for the environment. Clearly, people were misled, and this will be expensive and difficult to undo.

 

To keep the dirtiest vehicles out of town centres we need a national network of low emission zones. This requires action from central Government. To ask councils or local authorities to fix the problem is putting a plaster on a large wound."

 

To save 30,000 British lives a year, the Government must act now on air pollution - The Ecologist

 

Can catalytic converters be fitted to diesel cars?.... or is there other technology that could be retro-fitted?

cheers, steve

 

Here we go again. I spent 13 years in the diesel combustion and emission control industry after a PhD in the same subject, member of IIE, IDGTE blah blah blah. Here's my verdict: ignore everything, keep using diesel.

[mendiplogs]

Here we go again. I spent 13 years in the diesel combustion and emission control industry after a PhD in the same subject, member of IIE, IDGTE blah blah blah. Here's my verdict: ignore everything, keep using diesel.

 

HI JON how about all the OLD TRACTORS OUT THERE:thumbup1:THANKS JON

[SteveA]

Here we go again. I spent 13 years in the diesel combustion and emission control industry after a PhD in the same subject, member of IIE, IDGTE blah blah blah. Here's my verdict: ignore everything, keep using diesel.

 

How did you reach that verdict? cheers, steve