No surprises... Environment Agency Fracking Pie

[skyhuck]

Phew! That's alright then. Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about.

 

Money , how much cash is being made by all this green wash???

[the village idiot]

Money , how much cash is being made by all this green wash???

 

Could you elaborate on what you are calling green wash, and who you believe to be doing the washing?

[pycoed]

What's scary is that a significant proportion of Americans actually believe that there is nothing changing and if it is its not caused by man.

 

 

Not just Americans either - in fact millions of us Brits too! In fact all those of us capable of rational thought, & healthily sceptical of politicians & vested scientific interests too. It's not just oil & global industry that has the monopoly on skewing statistics - science & government are just as bad.

[skyhuck]

Could you elaborate on what you are calling green wash, and who you believe to be doing the washing?

 

Where do I start??????

 

Wind turbins, there is more carbon produced in the manufacture and installation than they will ever save, same goes for hybrid cars.

 

RHI, solar panels,etc, etc…..

[gmeneaud]

Not just Americans either - in fact millions of us Brits too! In fact all those of us capable of rational thought, & healthily sceptical of politicians & vested scientific interests too. It's not just oil & global industry that has the monopoly on skewing statistics - science & government are just as bad.

it is possible that we are in an interstadial (a warmer period between ice ages)and the ice will come back eventually.

[the village idiot]

Where do I start??????

 

Wind turbins, there is more carbon produced in the manufacture and installation than they will ever save, same goes for hybrid cars.

 

RHI, solar panels,etc, etc…..

 

Hence the need for urgent investment in renewables! Surely money is better spent on improving these technologies, making them viable, than on squeezing the last drops of fossil fuel out of an already ravaged Earth?

[woodyguy]

The problem TVI is that there is plenty of fossil fuels, its just that burning them will cause even more damage to the overheating environment than we have so far. We have probably passed the tipping point already (as you know) but we have to start leaving the stuff in the ground.

 

You do wonder how many weather records we have to break (eg hottest years since records began in past decade) before people are convinced that we are damaging the planet??? Sadly the science is pretty clear with almost total consensus from those not directly paid by the fossil fuel lobby but when we don't like the consequences of leaving that oil in the ground, some will clutch at straws.

[the village idiot]

it is possible that we are in an interstadial (a warmer period between ice ages)and the ice will come back eventually.

 

Indeed it is possible but I wouldn't like to bet the continuation of our species on it!

 

Quite apart from what is causing the unprecedented rapidity of global warming, does no-one else think that we have a moral duty to at least try and step a bit more lightly? We share our celestial orb with several million other species. Through our misguided impressions of our own importance and voracious appetite for fuel we are very efficiently exterminating them at the rate of dozens of species per day!

[skyhuck]

The problem TVI is that there is plenty of fossil fuels, its just that burning them will cause even more damage to the overheating environment than we have so far. We have probably passed the tipping point already (as you know) but we have to start leaving the stuff in the ground.

 

You do wonder how many weather records we have to break (eg hottest years since records began in past decade) before people are convinced that we are damaging the planet??? Sadly the science is pretty clear with almost total consensus from those not directly paid by the fossil fuel lobby but when we don't like the consequences of leaving that oil in the ground, some will clutch at straws.

 

This always makes me laugh, records began seconds ago in geological time.

 

We are like I load of ants on the bonnet of a car, we got here 5 minuets ago, the engine of the car has just started, we think were are responsible, what we don't know is the car engine starts this time every morning, the guy is off to work

[john p]

Where do I start??????

 

 

 

Wind turbins, there is more carbon produced in the manufacture and installation than they will ever save, same goes for hybrid cars.

 

 

 

RHI, solar panels,etc, etc…..

 

 

Got a link to this info?