The end of firewood?

[Mortimer Firewood]

Cheer up, it not the end of the world

Summers only round the corner!!!

 

Can't wait to be stood in the sun not the rain in an inch of **** .

 

No deliveries to fit in . Gambling on how much cord to buy.

[Logsnstuff]

Hi STEVE as you no we will not see this price again £35 into yard 😰😰😰😰but your right thanks Jon

 

cross your fingers Jon, we had a load delivered in start of december £31 per ton mostly a mix birch & beech with a little bit of other stuff mixed in. haven't been on the phone to see if theres anything else out there atm.

[gensetsteve]

Can't wait to be stood in the sun not the rain in an inch of **** .

 

No deliveries to fit in . Gambling on how much cord to buy.

 

May be hedge your bets buy cordwood and get a pile of arb waste just in case it goes nuts. May take longer but at least you can keep ticking over and your not sat on dead money for another year.

[Mortimer Firewood]

Problem was in 2010 once your stock pile ran out you were dead in the water. We could have sold ten times as many logs but the following year we did not sell a tenth of it. When there is no demand plenty of cord about hard winter = no cord or inflated prices for the following year. At the moment log merchants are paying through the nose for cord yet oil has halved in price. To make it worth doing logs again I would have to be buying in at £35 a toone delivered and that would put me back on par with 2008.

 

Steve where your situated I know for a fact you can get cord for £40 on hardwood and 29 for soft. So the average is around the cost you want. We're buying in that area and getting a load back to Herefordshire so drivers can get home.

[Mortimer Firewood]

May be hedge your bets buy cordwood and get a pile of arb waste just in case it goes nuts. May take longer but at least you can keep ticking over and your not sat on dead money for another year.

 

Nope like hearing the kching when I push the joystick up on the tajfun been doing over size today and I'm knackered.

[arbitration]

This will seem a very simpleton question to ask but does any one know where one can get historical weather data for ones local area. I am interested to know how much temps have been above average this winter,compared to the last ten years ,the number of winters I have been supplying firewood . This season the worst so far. Cheers and a Healthy ,Safe and Prosperous(as long as you dont rely on log sales) 2015.:thumbup1:

 

Have a look at Energy management A to Z where you can get heating degree data - that should do the trick.

 

I looked at the heating degree data for the past 5 winters and compared it to our gas use and there was a strong correlation. Then in our first winter with the woodburner gas use (taking account the warmer winter) would appear to have dropped by 20%.

[SamWhiting12]

Um yes but what about growing your business where do those new customers come from there not bonuses there a necessity.

 

The same way you gained customers in the first place, advertising, word of mouth and selling a quality product.

[gensetsteve]

Steve where your situated I know for a fact you can get cord for £40 on hardwood and 29 for soft. So the average is around the cost you want. We're buying in that area and getting a load back to Herefordshire so drivers can get home.

 

Explains why they are giving the logs away around here. We gave up buying cord in 3 years ago and it was £55 + vat a tonne delivered in. There are lots of people selling logs around here now. I was paying low 20's in 2008

[Mortimer Firewood]

The same way you gained customers in the first place, advertising, word of mouth and selling a quality product.

 

There not a bonus then are they you need to keep growing doing 100 200. 300 tonne is nice extra money but if your solely in the firewood game you need to be doing over. 800 t to make a viable business.

We're not there yet but this time next year Rodney.

[Hotrod81]

There not a bonus then are they you need to keep growing doing 100 200. 300 tonne is nice extra money but if your solely in the firewood game you need to be doing over. 800 t to make a viable business.

We're not there yet but this time next year Rodney.

 

Yes, Derek?