Stobarts Biomass

[simonm]

We have got around 200 tonne of timber to shift once felled, all virgin timber mixed hard & soft wood. What should i expect Stobarts to be paying per tonne? they will be coming in and chipping it themselves.

[Johny Walker]

We have got around 200 tonne of timber to shift once felled, all virgin timber mixed hard & soft wood. What should i expect Stobarts to be paying per tonne? they will be coming in and chipping it themselves.

 

i think you may find they want you to pay them 1,st ??

[HRG Tree Services]

Depends where you are? I'm in Southampton and they said its to far so they wouldn't bother coming down to chip anything! They will only pick up Woodchip and they don't pay anything for it! They told me if I was in the Midlands they would be able to give me money and also come and chip all if my softwood!

[log on tommy]

simon there was a chap posting on here recently from your way wanting hard and softwood, brody I think. there are also some biomass boys over my side of gods own country who may be better to deal with for the chipwood.

[simonm]

I told them where the site was and their exact words was "its a good place to be" hes asked if i had a figure in my head price per tonne i said £10 then asked him to tell me what they would offer. Hopefully find out tomorrow.

[Tom D]

10 is too low. There are two kinds of chip: arb waste which isn't worth much at all, and chipped timber which varies in price from £50 to £120 a ton, given that it will cost them around £10 a ton to haul it and £10 a ton to chip it, they should be offering you at least £20. I wouldn't sell biomass timber for less than that. If you have somewhere to store it for a while to dry out you can then chip it to order selling it out at a known moisture content. There's a lot involved in selling chip mind you.

 

Call these guys, they may be able to put you in touch with a buyer for the timber.

Ridings Machinery Ring (RMR) Ltd - Yorkshire's Machinery Ring

[simonm]

10 is too low. There are two kinds of chip: arb waste which isn't worth much at all, and chipped timber which varies in price from £50 to £120 a ton, given that it will cost them around £10 a ton to haul it and £10 a ton to chip it, they should be offering you at least £20. I wouldn't sell biomass timber for less than that. If you have somewhere to store it for a while to dry out you can then chip it to order selling it out at a known moisture content. There's a lot involved in selling chip mind you.

 

Call these guys, they may be able to put you in touch with a buyer for the timber.

Ridings Machinery Ring (RMR) Ltd - Yorkshire's Machinery Ring

 

Cheers Tom, the site where the trees are located is in Retford, we thought about selling the timber roadside but i think i would rather get somebody in that can take the whole tree away, so as the trees are all virgin timber do you reckon its worth as much as £20 a tonne? i don't want to store it just want to get rid while its on site.

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[Tom D]

Cheers Tom, the site where the trees are located is in Retford, we thought about selling the timber roadside but i think i would rather get somebody in that can take the whole tree away, so as the trees are all virgin timber do you reckon its worth as much as £20 a tonne? i don't want to store it just want to get rid while its on site.

 

When you say the whole tree do you mean brash and all? leaf and brash contains chlorine which you are not allowed to burn in most biomass boilers, that would knock the value right down. you need to snedd off the brash and stack the timber so that the buyer can send a timber wagon to collect it. Try the machinery ring, they will probably know a farmer who has a boiler and might want to buy it. The big guys like stobarts will screw you on price.

[simonm]

When you say the whole tree do you mean brash and all? leaf and brash contains chlorine which you are not allowed to burn in most biomass boilers, that would knock the value right down. you need to snedd off the brash and stack the timber so that the buyer can send a timber wagon to collect it. Try the machinery ring, they will probably know a farmer who has a boiler and might want to buy it. The big guys like stobarts will screw you on price.

 

Yep the whole lot, problem with that is we will still have a LOT of brash to deal with, if i could get a crane fed chipper in then happy days but imo that will add too much cost to the job as we are already planning on getting a 360 on site. Trying to suss out the best method.

[Tom D]

With some jobs its best to just make your money from the work and forget about trying to make something off the arisings. Its nice if it will wash its face but it doesn't always happen. That said a big biomass chipper will chip 200 ton in a day, so if you sell 200 ton at £20 thats 4k, even if it cost £2k to chip the brash you're still quids in...