Cats v Wildlife

[stuartc44]

'I have the greatest respect for fish, well at least for the ones I catch and eat'

 

Always wondered what cat tastes like....

[treequip]

'I have the greatest respect for fish, well at least for the ones I catch and eat'

 

Always wondered what cat tastes like....

 

Come to Manchester:laugh1:

 

Bin bag full of cats' heads discovered near Manchester's Curry Mile - Home News - UK - The Independent

[treequip]

At the end of the day, like cats or not, they do in general destroy vulnerable wildlife, distract from neighbors enjoying their bird tables, & foul third party private ground, often where children play, such as in their sand pits.

I have & will not tolerate this intrusion into my property, as neither would I a neighbors dog, budgie, horse, wife, or children...so what gives the cat owner the right to inflict this on me repeatedly?

We all know the answer to that, so if the owner chooses to do nothing to prevent the migrant moggy from straying, ( which is easy enough to do with correct boundary fencing), then I am going to have to dissuade the felines faecal forays by my own methods if I wish to maintain my garden as a healthy safe & wildlife abundant area.

Can anyone seriously tell me I have no right to do so, on a moral standing?

 

The law

[stuartc44]

The law doesn't give them the right to inflict anything on people, it enables prosecution 'if' you can prove that someone stopped it happening by causing suffering or killing.

[skyhuck]

Should I shoot the birds that crap on my patio and the badgers that dig up my land??

[stuartc44]

The birds yes under the general license if you can prove they are causing problems to health or safety.

Do you have a badger infestation?

[geoff]

The law

 

Were I to harm them I agree entirely, but I did say dissuade them, I have installed an electric stock fence along my boundry, & it does the job, without harming them.

[skyhuck]

The birds yes under the general license if you can prove they are causing problems to health or safety.

Do you have a badger infestation?

 

I don't wish to. I don't feel I am so important that anything that causes me inconvenience must die.

 

I try to show tolerance to those with whom I share the planet.

 

I have dogs, they bark from time to time, my neighbours tolerate that, I tolerate them having parties from time to time and they do the same for me.

 

I believe its called "live and let live"

 

If peoples cats coming into my garden caused me real issues I would fence my garden to keep them out.

[Daniel Jiggins]

At the end of the day, like cats or not, they do in general destroy vulnerable wildlife, distract from neighbors enjoying their bird tables, & foul third party private ground, often where children play, such as in their sand pits.

 

I have & will not tolerate this intrusion into my property, as neither would I a neighbors dog, budgie, horse, wife, or children...so what gives the cat owner the right to inflict this on me repeatedly?

 

We all know the answer to that, so if the owner chooses to do nothing to prevent the migrant moggy from straying, ( which is easy enough to do with correct boundary fencing), then I am going to have to dissuade the felines faecal forays by my own methods if I wish to maintain my garden as a healthy safe & wildlife abundant area.

 

Can anyone seriously tell me I have no right to do so, on a moral standing?

 

 

wife.....???

 

Can't see you turning away any stray wife's mate!

[countrryboy]

Mst admit i find the views on both sides fairly shocking, u say live and let live but u don't really mean it do u. Well not if ur a small bird etc but equally u should not be going around or even threatening to shoot/harm/maim someones cat

 

Everyone talks about 'modern farming practices' as the big evil, now wot the hell dos that mean??

Can u all list how the 'evil' of modern farming has changed around ur area in the past 30yrs?

I have lived and worked in the same village all my life no hedges have been ripped up, there is not massive ammounts of pesticide or insecticide being sparayed about wily nilly. In fact very little has actually changed in the past 40yrs (apart from tractrs have got bigger and quad bikes). Infact quite the oppisate more hedges have been planted and more ponds dug and the advent of game cover crops/wild bird seed mix's has really helped

Yes in some of the more intensive arable belts there will have been a fair bit of change, but most of that would have been 30+ yrs ago before mosrt of the agri-environmental laws came in

Modern farming is just a catch all excuse same as (gloabal warming) spout it out and confuse folk

In my area the 1 big change that most people don't realise is there used to be 5 ful time keepers and predators were kept under control, and in those days not many crows, badgers hadn't moved up yet, no magpies and very few BOP's, now no keepers and no lapwings, curlews etc and all the predators are as common as anything

Even if u go onto some upland hill sheep farms where the only modern farming pratice is a quad bike lapwings, curlews,plovers redshank etc are stillalmost non existant as breeding populations, even most rspb reserves don't have vaible breeding populations of waders

 

Yet u go to an upland sheep area near a grouse moor and it is absolutely teaming with wildlife an brids fledging young all because of controling predators.

If u don't want to believe me, fair enough but loads of scientific work has been carried out on the benefits of predator control esp to ground nesting birds, try looking on the GWCT site (esp Otterburn and Sailsbury plain studies) and no matter how u look at it ur precious tiddles IS a predator.

 

U say ur 1 cat has never killed a bird, fair play but that leaves another 8.5 million -1 to kill 55 million birds, thats only 5 birds per cat per year, i'm sure some cats will kill that in a day. I'm no lover of the RSPB and for them to actually admit anything bad about cats is quite something and probably massively understated so it doesnae hit there membership

 

Yes own a cat but please put a bell on its collar and atleast have some respect for wildlife. Please

Like i said i have put a small wildlife resreve on hold becuase of cats moving into the area and i have done a fair bit of coppicing and tree work to improve it, a real shame that 1 neighbour who doesnae even own the ground can put a stop to it.