Do we need drivers CPC?

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-exemptions-examples

 

Vehicles carrying material or equipment to be used in the course of the driver’s work

 

You don’t need Driver CPC if you’re carrying equipment or material that you’ll use in the course of your work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the main part of your job.

 

This includes:

•trade tools

•goods such as building materials or cables to be used by the driver in the course of their work

•extra crew like a mechanics mate or any other person needed for the job

 

Driver A

 

Driver A is a mobile lorry fitter. They drive a vehicle from one operator’s site to another site where they take their tools from the vehicle to do their main activity of servicing lorries. They do not need Driver CPC. If they use engine diagnostic kit that’s fixed within the vehicle, they would also be covered by the exemption because the vehicle carries material or equipment for their use on site.

 

Driver B

 

Driver B is a self-employed bricklayer and drives their lorry to a building site with a load of bricks. They unload the bricks and use them in the construction of a house. They don’t need to have Driver CPC because driving the lorry is not their main activity and they’re carrying materials for their use in the course of bricklaying

 

 

You can probably cite the "Driver B" example. Your main job is not driving the truck

 

In principle I agree with 'the above', and indeed have previously posted similarly. However, in light of a more recent query, there is a potential 'grey area' when delivering (definitely), or transporting from site (possibly), woodchips and logs etc. intended for sale.

 

See below:

 

Driver H

 

Driver H is a farm labourer. Their normal duties include transporting livestock and crops around the farm in a lorry. They need to have Driver CPC when driving on public roads while doing this as they’re carrying goods intended for sale, as opposed to materials or equipment.

 

Sorry, I don't have a definitive answer here, and indeed my experience shows you won't get that from DVLA / VOSA either , so quite where you go I don't know.

 

I don't know the 'ins and outs' of driver CPC either but, at least in some instances and bearing in mind driver training / refresher training anyway, it might be worth considering. I'm sure your MV insurers would be happy if you did so which could be worth something

 

Just my thoughts n contributions n sorry for throwing a 'spanner...'

 

Cheers all..

Paul

[treequip]

It's restricted but anywhere in Europe, obviously as tree workers driving isn't our main job, but I didn't find an example to suit on the website.

 

I.e Driver A drives the vehicle to his place of work using it to Carry the tools of his trade then fills the vehicle with the product( some might call this waste) of his work and drives homem. Driver A does not need CPC

 

That's confusing, restricted means UK only.

 

You wont find an exact match in the examples, the list would need to be yards long.

 

The principal is that a Certificate of Professional Competence is for professional drivers. If driving isn't your profession you don't need one.

 

Anyone with vehicle under 3500kg MAM doesn't need a CPC even if the train weight is over 3500kg

[treequip]

In principle I agree with 'the above', and indeed have previously posted similarly. However, in light of a more recent query, there is a potential 'grey area' when delivering (definitely), or transporting from site (possibly), woodchips and logs etc. intended for sale.

 

See below:

 

Driver H

 

Driver H is a farm labourer. Their normal duties include transporting livestock and crops around the farm in a lorry. They need to have Driver CPC when driving on public roads while doing this as they’re carrying goods intended for sale, as opposed to materials or equipment.

 

Sorry, I don't have a definitive answer here, and indeed my experience shows you won't get that from DVLA / VOSA either , so quite where you go I don't know.

 

I don't know the 'ins and outs' of driver CPC either but, at least in some instances and bearing in mind driver training / refresher training anyway, it might be worth considering. I'm sure your MV insurers would be happy if you did so which could be worth something

 

Just my thoughts n contributions n sorry for throwing a 'spanner...'

 

Cheers all..

Paul

 

 

Except we aren't carrying goods for sale, chip and lumps of wood aren't produce.

 

Its waste guvenor:thumbup1:

 

Although I do agree, just because you don't need a CPC doesn't mean you shouldn't get one.

[Billy]

That's confusing, restricted means UK only.

 

 

 

You wont find an exact match in the examples, the list would need to be yards long.

 

 

 

The principal is that a Certificate of Professional Competence is for professional drivers. If driving isn't your profession you don't need one.

 

 

 

Anyone with vehicle under 3500kg MAM doesn't need a CPC even if the train weight is over 3500kg

 

 

I as far as I'm aware restricted just means you are restricted to hauling your own goods and equipment rather than transporting for hire or reward for others. As far as CPC goes I see that no one really knows so may be best to do it anyway.

[treequip]

I as far as I'm aware restricted just means you are restricted to hauling your own goods and equipment rather than transporting for hire or reward for others. As far as CPC goes I see that no one really knows so may be best to do it anyway.

 

Restricted does mean own goods but it also means UK only

 

As far as CPC goes, I know.

[aspenarb]

I as far as I'm aware restricted just means you are restricted to hauling your own goods and equipment rather than transporting for hire or reward for others. As far as CPC goes I see that no one really knows so may be best to do it anyway.

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The drivers cpc exemptions are still undergoing fine tuning, they are going to finalise the ones for AG/forestry shortly.

 

Extract

 

The government is also reviewing whether the scope of exemptions can be extended in respect of farmers – and has said it will also be reissuing guidance shortly . This will considerably cut burdens on this small group.

 

VOSA clarifies transitional enforcement around new Driver CPC exemptions - Transport Operator - Transport Operator

 

 

Bob

[bob]

But 99 percent of us are not forestry or ag

So none of you sell woodchip or logs

IMO and that or our company you do need it if you are paid whilst driving that vehicle and it's over 3500kg

8 hrs a yr

Sadly leave it till the last yr and it's a full week