ID needed. Pine cone

[LeeOulton]

Hi all,

My father in law has just started to manage a small woodland in Cheshire. He brought a bunch of cones back and said they were Scots Pine. I have never seen cones this big before in England. I found some in Southern France years ago but not sure what trees they were from.

 

I'm not convinced that these are Scots Pine and as I've now opened them to collect the seed. I would like to know for definite what I am about to grow.

 

Any suggestions? I have not actually seen the trees so I cannot say yet. I know it would be easier to go look but I'm not going to get chance for a while plus it's bugging me wanting to know.

 

 

A photo with a normal Scots Pine cone next to it.

Don't laugh at the ruler! Only my daughter owns one in our house.

 

It looks bigger due to the angle. It's actually 10.5cm

 

My books mostly say between 2.5cm to 7cm

 

I know it's sad but it's really bugging me not knowing for sure.

 

I look forward to replies. Especially if anyone has any tips for tree ID from cones etc. I only did a bit about this at college so it's quite interesting for me.

 

 

Thanks all,

 

Lee

[LeeOulton]

[mdvaden]

Was first doubting that it is Scots ... but maybe. One book I have Trees of North America and Europe, says the cones can reach the size shown in your photo.

 

Typically, I see cones much smaller. But if the cones can get that large ... then sounds realistic.

 

Was thinking Pinus pinea for a moment, then photo samples of that online had me thinking not.

 

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Edited February 9, 2014 by mdvaden

[se7enthdevil]

slash pine???

 

pinus elliottii.

[Stihlben]

Corsican pine, have seen them grow quite large in some situations

[Goaty]

Pinus nigra. corsican pine. The trees will have bigger needles as well.

[daltontrees]

Too big for P.sylvestris, pretty extreme for P. nigra. Try P. radiata (Monterey Pine).

[armybloke]

Ask you F-i-L how many needles - this will narrow down the species. Try Stone Pine Pinus pinea