Am I liable if I strap a tree up as an emergency fix and then it comes down?

[RPA]

One thing could have avoided all of this and any question of liability.

When you examined the tree DON'T state or advise that it should be taken down. Explain the characteristics etc. of included bark and how it can increase the potential for failure. Leave the decision with him.

Included bark/multi stems on these are as common as the pigeons. If it is that large remember it has been like that for many years unless something has recently changed to increase the potential for failure.

[treequip]

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Included bark should not be fatal, too easy to fix.

 

The trouble with that is the precedents establishing liability under English law.

 

If you brace it you are accepting that the tree is defective, if the bracing doesn't hold you are slam dunk liable so we don't see as much bracing in the UK as elsewhere in the world

 

The other thing is, (as others have said) its a leylandii, a cockrochesque thug of an interspecific hybrid. They are plentiful and not regarded as a high value tree.

[Gary Prentice]

The trouble with that is the precedents establishing liability under English law.

 

If you brace it you are accepting that the tree is defective, if the bracing doesn't hold you are slam dunk liable so we don't see as much bracing in the UK as elsewhere in the world

 

The other thing is, (as others have said) its a leylandii, a cockrochesque thug of an interspecific hybrid. They are plentiful and not regarded as a high value tree.

 

So would a reduction to reduce end weight/loading on an over-extended fall under this general categorisation?

[JonnyVine]

leylandii, a cockrochesque thug of an interspecific hybrid.

 

:lol:

[Gary Prentice]

The trouble with that is the precedents establishing liability under English law.

 

If you brace it you are accepting that the tree is defective, if the bracing doesn't hold you are slam dunk liable so we don't see as much bracing in the UK as elsewhere in the world

 

The other thing is, (as others have said) its a leylandii, a cockrochesque thug of an intergeneric hybrid. They are plentiful and not regarded as a high value tree.

 

Fixed that for you:thumbup: but it is much more appreciated in the states:lol:

[treequip]

Fixed that for you:thumbup: but it is much more appreciated in the states:lol:

 

Well I stand to be, or stand corrected but I thought an intergeneric hybrid would produce viable offspring and an interspecific would be sterile.

 

Either way is a thug of a tree often used to bad ends, although it is a good money maker.

[Gary Prentice]

Well I stand to be, or stand corrected but I thought an intergeneric hybrid would produce viable offspring and an interspecific would be sterile.

 

Either way is a thug of a tree often used to bad ends, although it is a good money maker.

 

TBH I think they're still arguing the classification of which genera the Nootka should be in, but its different to the Monterey either way. Mitchell made note of the viability of the seed from trees at Leyland, raising the issue himself as to the actual parentage and questioning if it was actually intergeneric.

 

But I found this http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/The-Plantsman/2011-issues/December/The-fertility-of-Leyland-cypress which is worth a read.

 

Thug of a tree? Grows rapidly, tolerant of pollution, salt spray and butchering. Money-maker for the arb industry- definitely. Is it simply a case of the wrong tree in many locations, as a stand alone specimen in a suitable location it certainly has many desirable attributes.

 

Is it just so common, the most planted tree in the Uk (trees in towns 2) that it suffers from arboricultural snobbery:001_tt2:

[teepeeat]

not being in the tree game, but having read quite a few posts on here, would have thought the arb industry would be a little kinder to the poor Leylandii as it does seem to be a good banker for quite a few on here :lol:

Granted, a slightly double edged sword judging from some of the comments and pictures :lol:

 

Apart from that, did read somewhere a few years ago - maybe on here - that there were some serious studies being done on them with regard to timber production. If memory serves it was mainly New Zealand based with interest from the UK - possibly.