Oak tree advice please

[Stephen Blair]

Just a question If you can screw an arborbolt or nail a plaque to a tree, why would this not be aloud?

or is it just a question of what causes more damage?

 

i think the main point is that it isnt his own tree iain, and there is a tpo on it. i have never done any bracing, but i have seen a lot of home made jobs wreck a tree. i have seen the top of a rowan die from a copper screw up that was holding in a bird box, i have watched council guys nail tika tape onto sappling trees:scared1: clothes lines strangle trees, the list goes on. this oogsy means well, but i think he could rectify his job and still be super awesome dad that is the envy of all the kids in the street:001_smile:

[oogzy]

Hi and thanks for all your valued input.

I know i'm just splitting hairs, but i never actually drilled into the limb in any way. No power tools whatsoever. I used two coach screws and a ratchet to screw them in without any piloting.

No the tree isn't mine, but neither are the rest of the scrubland and trees round there, but it doesn't stop me going out there and keeping it all trimmed and tidy. No defence i know.

We all want our kids to have something we wished we'd had when we were kids, and we ALL climbed the trees i'm sure, no matter who's they were .

This oak has probably stood there for 300 years plus and will be there for another 200 probably. In the true scale of things i know i'm not compromising the health of this tree in any way, but the suits tend to override common sense with the rule book so i think i'm gonna have to try for an alternative.

I did say to my neighbour, who is a building site manager about planting a second hand telegraph pole just behind the treehouse and against the treehouse so to act as support, but he said that it's illegal to dig deep holes so close to the oak... if that's true (?).

Im sort of caught between a rock and a hard place.

I wouldn't mind getting the council guy round to look as long as he's approachable. But its a toss up with badge carriers... i think we've all experienced that

 

Many thanks

[Will Hinchliffe]

This oak has probably stood there for 300 years plus and will be there for another 200 probably. In the true scale of things i know i'm not compromising the health of this tree in any way

 

You have compromised the trees defences against decay fungi by breaking the bark and wounding the tree. It is possible that decay could begin at this point and cause the limb to fail.

 

My advise would be to talk to the tree officer. He is probably going to make you take down the tree house and zip line but is unlikely to prosecute you for the minor damage you have caused. The maximum fine for damage to a TPO tree is £2500!

 

In years to come if that coach bolt is hidden inside the branch and someone hits it with a chainsaw it could cause them injury.

 

Just my take on the situation, sorry to be a spoil sport.

[josharb87]

i know that strictly speaking, any un-nessary damage to the tree is wrong, but i personally dont see any problem with what oogzy's done-its a healthy looking mature oak, the tree house hes told us is free standing, 2 coach screws-it will survive! its just part of the trees history, like initials being carved into the trunk, or the patter of todlers around the root zone of a play ground tree . . oh wait, that was banned!

strimmers, grass cutters smashing exposed roots, un-maintained tree gaurds/ties ect all do more damage than this.

 

id hope that common sence on the Tree officers half over rides the protocol of his job and oogzys family are allowed to continue enjoying this magnificent tree

[Bundle 2]

Out of interest Oogzy, was the treehouse post TPO?

[Bundle 2]

Just a question If you can screw an arborbolt or nail a plaque to a tree, why would this not be aloud?

or is it just a question of what causes more damage?

 

Pretty much the fact that a TPO is in place, requiring permission is sought re: works that may/will affect the tree over and above the exemptions ( DDD whu )

Oogzy, this will also include foundations/digging/sinking of said structural support ( of treehouse ) within root area of tree to which the order is designated ( ie the oak ) regardless the fact the bole ( trunk ) is outside your boundary but the root zone inside if you take my mean9ng....herein lies the rub.

Edited March 29, 2009 by Bundle 2

[oogzy]

Out of interest Oogzy, was the treehouse post TPO?

 

Erm... I'm not sure.

The tree house was up well before the development started, and i went and checked about the tree as soon as their plans were submitted and insisted on seeing the plans for the trees as they had already started lobbing down a row of poplars only 50 metres away.

They assured me it had been protected. There were bits of angle iron nailed all up the tree from before i moved here, probably by kids years ago ensuring a footing for their climbs, but i have removed all these some time ago.

 

Oh sorry... i thought you said pre and not post )

[Bundle 2]

Oh sorry... i thought you said pre and not post

 

For the sake of argument mate...(the real implications of your last comment escapes my logic for the present ), the notion of protecting a tree with a TPO , whilst it extends to the root zone, as to not do so would render the order ineffectual to all intents and purposes on account of it failing to "protect the tree " is bound as I understand it by a conceptual notion that said protection "will not hinder beyond reasonable, the landowners enjoyment of said property" or words to that effect.......If anybody knows different then speak up...please.

 

§edit... So herein lies the rub...and believe me, its probably not worth the aggro if it gets to this stage mate.......

Edited March 29, 2009 by Bundle 2

[Tom D]

I'm not condoning attaching anything to someone elses tree, however despite being invasive screws and bolts are much less damaging then tieing something around the stem.

[Ian Leach]

Pretty much the fact that a TPO is in place, requiring permission is sought re: works that may/will affect the tree over and above the exemptions ( DDD whu )

Oogzy, this will also include foundations/digging/sinking of said structural support ( of treehouse ) within root area of tree to which the order is designated ( ie the oak ) regardless the fact the bole ( trunk ) is outside your boundary but the root zone inside if you take my mean9ng....herein lies the rub.

 

Don't get me wrong i agree that he needs permission from a tree officer, just an idea of bigger version of arborbolt? Goes with movement of tree

Call me stupid but what does DDD whu mean??