friction saver

[Pete Mctree]

if you want friction in your system telhol why bother with a friction saver?

 

Less friction equals less effort ESPECIALLY at the end of a hard day. I'd try ammending your selftending setup as it obviously has alot of play in the system

[telhol]

Yeah removing some friction is good but you still need a little to help hold yourself while you tend the slack.

 

I found that a pulley increased my holding weight to an uncomfortable amount to much.

 

I weight 80 odd kgs so i was having to hold all my weight which gets tiring.

 

Just using the cambium saver was fine but maybe my hitch is to long takes forever finding out better systems

[Pete Mctree]

You should be able to easily hold your own weight with a straight locked arm.

[Buzz]

Remeber you are only holding half your weight. Try a thicker rope if your struggling. I find my Blaze very tiring with a rope guide when it's wet but in the dry i fly

[18 stoner]

Yeah removing some friction is good but you still need a little to help hold yourself while you tend the slack.

 

I found that a pulley increased my holding weight to an uncomfortable amount to much.

 

I weight 80 odd kgs so i was having to hold all my weight which gets tiring.

 

Surely telhol, you must be able to hold your weight while you tend slack...... I have just cut the small ring from my cambium saver to use a pulley all the time, and belive me i am a tad over 80 kgs:cry: but still would love less friction.

 

Dont you agree the extra energy you use while tending slack cant be anything like the energy you save ascending the rope with less friction?

[telhol]

Totally agree with what your saying you are saving more energy.

 

Pete i use a cambium saver to protect the tree less friction was an after thought for me i just found that using the pulley increased my load at the friction hitch and my hand when tending It may be my hitch is not yet perfected to suit this difference in style

 

But i only have myself to teach me everyone else uses old styles to climb which i hate.

 

What pulleys are you using i have a petzl fixed pulley new england rope oh and i used a crab to secure the saver thus nonretreivable with a pulley any ideas.

[Pete Mctree]

The pulley will deffo increase the load on the hitch. Try a different hitch, as the icicle does tend to bind when sharply loaded. It's all trial and error in finding what suits us as individuals. After 15 years of running around in trees I'm still not happy with any setup 100%

 

Petzel pulley is ok, but it does have a poor bending radius on the rope. I prefer a larger one. I'd also remove the krab out of the system and replace it with a maillon. Less to damage and less chance of side loading.

[telhol]

The pulley will deffo increase the load on the hitch. Try a different hitch, as the icicle does tend to bind when sharply loaded. It's all trial and error in finding what suits us as individuals. After 15 years of running around in trees I'm still not happy with any setup 100%

 

Petzel pulley is ok, but it does have a poor bending radius on the rope. I prefer a larger one. I'd also remove the krab out of the system and replace it with a maillon. Less to damage and less chance of side loading.

 

 

So what have you found suits you and do you make it retrievable have you got a pic of your set up

[Pete Mctree]

French prussic or a vt as a hitch with a rope guide.

 

I will see if I can get a pic of my old FS for you over the next couple of days, it's not fancy but worked well

[telhol]

Cheers pete ill post my current set up and expect some scrutiny for improovment. lol.