Old Massey starting issue

[doobin]

Just trace the wire from the solenoid back to the starter switch. Should take five minutes at most to find the fault.

 

Does yours have a safety switch on the clutch pedal?

[Le Sanglier]

Just trace the wire from the solenoid back to the starter switch. Should take five minutes at most to find the fault.

 

Does yours have a safety switch on the clutch pedal?

 

No, though i'll have a look.

just to check.

[Big Bolt]

not much of a derail i have took the pto selector cover off to change the hyd oil filter

 

and it is not there . it is a 57 model 135 would it be hiding some where else ? can any one help please.

[slack ma girdle]

If its any help the mighty Nuffield goes through periods of not starting, and i have never been able to find the fault.

On the plus side i can strip and clean the electrics, remove and test the starter in under 10 minutes

[Tyz05]

not much of a derail i have took the pto selector cover off to change the hyd oil filter

 

and it is not there . it is a 57 model 135 would it be hiding some where else ? can any one help please.

 

It should be there!? I've known of people leave them out,can you feel the hole for it?It will be submerged in the oil,its a fiddly job if you've not done one before. If not it might be underneath,triangular cover held with three bolts. You will have to drain the oil out befor removing, not seen a 135 with filter underneath before though

Edited June 22, 2013 by Tyz05

[18 stoner]

Ok so I have this old Massey for topping the fields, it would not start the other day, and when I say that I mean the starter would not turn, no click nothing,

After much cleaning and rubbing I bridged the gap between the thing above it (solenoid?) and the starter itself and bang off she went, now what does this mean? I know it's simple but not as simple as me and I don't want an expensive mechanics bill!

Thanks in advance,

Here is a pic of the tractor itself showing the starter, apologies if upside down, iPads seem to do that.

(Anyone know why that is as well?)

 

It appears your main problem is its a Massey ferguson, they are rubbish. We had one a few years ago and was ultra unreliable and ended up getting a ford. The one we had was not this model but it did have a red bonnet.

 

The old ford we got didn't have any electrics to go wrong, just a starting handle. Much more reliable.

 

Hope you get it sorted soon mate, after all it'll be worth much more as a runner when you come to trade it in.

[Le Sanglier]

It appears your main problem is its a Massey ferguson, they are rubbish. We had one a few years ago and was ultra unreliable and ended up getting a ford. The one we had was not this model but it did have a red bonnet.

 

The old ford we got didn't have any electrics to go wrong, just a starting handle. Much more reliable.

 

Hope you get it sorted soon mate, after all it'll be worth much more as a runner when you come to trade it in.

 

Maybe, to be fair it's really just a bit of fun to top the fields and play the farmer,

[Big Bolt]

CHeers tyz05 that is what i thought trouble is the hyd pump is playing up so a dirty hand job so to speak

[tommytopsoil]

Ok so I have this old Massey for topping the fields, it would not start the other day, and when I say that I mean the starter would not turn, no click nothing,

After much cleaning and rubbing I bridged the gap between the thing above it (solenoid?) and the starter itself and bang off she went, now what does this mean? I know it's simple but not as simple as me and I don't want an expensive mechanics bill!

Thanks in advance,

Here is a pic of the tractor itself showing the starter, apologies if upside down, iPads seem to do that.

(Anyone know why that is as well?)

 

Your starter should have a permanent live and a switched live (exciter wire) running to it. Permanent live 12v direct from battery on large cable. Yes?

Switched live to small terminal on solenoid, small gauge wire. Disconnect at solenoid end, push multimeter probe up and put other probe to earth. turn key to see 12v. Yes?

^^ This would indicate switch and circuit ok.

 

Check earth strap from solenoid to starter and ensure starter has a good eart too - unless an insulated starter. A better pic of this would help.

 

Next check safety start switch. Will be on gearbox top-cover next to gearstick most likely and ensures stick in neutral to start. Easiest way is probably a resistance test in the two positions, or bypass it temporarily and see if it starts. It would be wise to replace this if faulty - saves a lot of broken ankles/legs etc...!

 

Let us know how you get on.

Tom

[Le Sanglier]

Your starter should have a permanent live and a switched live (exciter wire) running to it. Permanent live 12v direct from battery on large cable. Yes?

Switched live to small terminal on solenoid, small gauge wire. Disconnect at solenoid end, push multimeter probe up and put other probe to earth. turn key to see 12v. Yes?

^^ This would indicate switch and circuit ok.

 

Check earth strap from solenoid to starter and ensure starter has a good eart too - unless an insulated starter. A better pic of this would help.

 

Next check safety start switch. Will be on gearbox top-cover next to gearstick most likely and ensures stick in neutral to start. Easiest way is probably a resistance test in the two positions, or bypass it temporarily and see if it starts. It would be wise to replace this if faulty - saves a lot of broken ankles/legs etc...!

 

Let us know how you get on.

Tom

 

Thanks Tommy, I'll have a go tomorrow when it stops raining and let you know.