Overloaded

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

6 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

But where do you draw the line as to how overloaded is "safe" 10% 20% 100% over? 

To me a transit payload isn't even a ton what good is that? A big body and once you fill a corner it's overweight its a load of rubbish they should be a 6 ton vehicle with a 3500kg tow weight or 9000kg train weight they manage that weight perfect if anything it wants bigger brakes but the engine pulls it perfect 

 

Jack 

[eggsarascal]

10 minutes ago, Woodworks said:

But where do you draw the line as to how overloaded is "safe" 10% 20% 100% over? 

Difficult question to answer until one of us as an accident, I've weighed in 3,1/2 tonne of scrap motors that I had given to me on a Cabstar in the past, would I do it again?, probably.

[Richard 1234]

6 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

To me a transit payload isn't even a ton what good is that? A big body and once you fill a corner it's overweight its a load of rubbish they should be a 6 ton vehicle with a 3500kg tow weight or 9000kg train weight they manage that weight perfect if anything it wants bigger brakes but the engine pulls it perfect 

 

Jack 

That’s all true so you’ve got the wrong vehicle......

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

5 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

That’s all true so you’ve got the wrong vehicle......

So what vehicle do I need? ?

 

Jack

[Richard 1234]

14 minutes ago, Jwoodgardenmaintenance said:

So what vehicle do I need? ?

 

Jack

No clue. One with a 6tonne payload 9 tonne train weight I suppose.

weve all overloaded a bit I suppose (well most of us) as you get older you realise it’s just not worth it I suppose

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

27 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

No clue. One with a 6tonne payload 9 tonne train weight I suppose.

weve all overloaded a bit I suppose (well most of us) as you get older you realise it’s just not worth it I suppose

Even a 7.5 tonne wagon isn't rated for that weight but can carry twice as much I like the American Ford f550 there a good lucking truck with a 12000lb payload and really good towing capacity 

 

Jack 

[Richard 1234]

6 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Perhaps a percentage that doesn't cause the rear spring to snap.

 

 

A Mercedes Vario is as close as you'll get. They have the highest payload available for a 7.5t gross vehicle. When you see the construction of a Vario next to a standard 3.5t pickup, you understand why they are able to carry 4.2t on a daily basis whereas a Transit isn't.

 

Anyway, my original point stands Jack. You're (regularly) horribly overloading your vehicle because you're too tight to pay for delivery or do two trips. You're defiant when this is pointed out to you, even when you're suffering mechanical failures associated with overloading. Please upgrade your vehicle to something suitable for carrying the loads that you seem intent on regularly carrying.

My point was more about either having the proper truck (his numbers for weights not mine) or like you say paying for delivery.

shouldnt make any difference anyway as a contractor it’s the client paying not you. So he’s trying to price it cheap and cut corners to make the cheapness up

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

7 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

Perhaps a percentage that doesn't cause the rear spring to snap.

 

 

A Mercedes Vario is as close as you'll get. They have the highest payload available for a 7.5t gross vehicle. When you see the construction of a Vario next to a standard 3.5t pickup, you understand why they are able to carry 4.2t on a daily basis whereas a Transit isn't.

 

Anyway, my original point stands Jack. You're (regularly) horribly overloading your vehicle because you're too tight to pay for delivery or do two trips. You're defiant when this is pointed out to you, even when you're suffering mechanical failures associated with overloading. Please upgrade your vehicle to something suitable for carrying the loads that you seem intent on regularly carrying.

Tbf the truck was recently bought from  the council and it has never been worked so its a shock to it plus the springs used to sit level when it's empty so they were bad weight carriers to start with with delivery it's and hour and a half trip there and the same back so why pay £360 delivery when the blocks were only £120? The thread is called Overloaded eh? This is my contribution and I'm the only person in the thread who's had 2 pages of folk going on about it if I wasn't overloaded I wouldn't of posted I knew exactly what I was doing and the spring snapped but I've ordered better stronger ones so it'll carry weight better that's it ?

 

Jack 

 

 

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

15 minutes ago, Richard 1234 said:

My point was more about either having the proper truck (his numbers for weights not mine) or like you say paying for delivery.

shouldnt make any difference anyway as a contractor it’s the client paying not you. So he’s trying to price it cheap and cut corners to make the cheapness up

But why pay 3 x the amount of blocks for delivery? 

 

Jack 

[Jwoodgardenmaintenance]

Just now, Big J said:

 

Because you are knowingly overloading your vehicle with at least double it's legal load. You are running illegally, endangering the lives of other road users and seem to be remorselessly doing this on a daily basis. Chucking a few extra logs on to be a few hundred kilos over is one thing. To put three tonnes on the back of a transit knowing that it's overloaded by two tonnes is quite another. 

My main work is landscaping so carry topsoil I do a few driveways but I mostly use wagons this job in question I'd already had 12 packets delivered on a wagon with a hiab but ran short of 4 packs and needed them immediately to get the job finished so I could move on to my next job and even if I did pay delivery I'd of been waiting a week with baclogues of their deliveries so that was a no go and I didn't have time to do 2 runs as it was a day wasted travelling back and forth for blocks so I chucked them on the truck & trailer and took the back roads way to avoid motorways incase something did go wrong which it never and the springs were shite before I loaded the truck that just helped finish them off 

Overloaded is overloaded doesn't matter if its a few hundred kilos or couple of ton if something is going to go wrong it goes wrong it's life the worst that could've happened would of been my brakes fail and I put the truck in a ditch or straight through a dike there wasn't one pedestrian or walker and all traffic on the scenic route used their common sense and gave me space 

We can sit and go on all night about shouldn't do this should possibly do that it's been done gone that's it 

 

Jack