Why not always use a pulley on anchor point?

[recycledsole]

Hello guys,

Im wondering why dont arborists favor using a pulley (tied around a high branch) for their anchor point instead of having the anchor point ON the branch itself? wouldnt that create a lot less friction? forgive me if this is a very obvious question, i am just beggining.

Thanks!

[tree monkey]

if your just climbing up it is a pain to keep taking the pulley off.

 

if at top then a cambion saver or pulley a lot less friction.

also it could depend on the tree species as some bark causes less friction ie beech and sycamore are smooth so less friction than say oak or ash.

end of day i think its personal preferance.

[colemanjessenz]

cant retrieve from ground if its tied up there

[Wouter]

Pulleysaver will do the trick, just what a lot of arborist use these days.....

[coleman]

i wouldnt use a pulley if you use a rope based friction knot as the lack of friction does your elbows in!! i only use one for the spiderjack. rest of the time i use a multisaver.

[Eagle]

Get yourself an ART Ropeguide...

[Stephen Blair]

Experience will give you the answer

[Wouter]

i wouldnt use a pulley if you use a rope based friction knot as the lack of friction does your elbows in!! i only use one for the spiderjack. rest of the time i use a multisaver.

 

That's the most interesting comment ever heard about a pulley saver.

 

 

And if you look it the other way round your elbows just will have to endure more friction every time you climb up to overcome the extra friction created by the rings of the multisaver....so all together the total will be zero IMO.

 

And the difference in friction is not that big, a pulley just works a little smoother but never ever noticed any difference in my elbows

 

Climb safe

[Le Sanglier]

If I have a large crown to negotiate I use a little pulley on a cambium saver, no real bother to go up and get it at the end of the job.

[Pommie]

Pulley saver all the time. It will add years to your climbing life, save your back a lot of wear and tear. just be aware that the friction has to occur somewhere and that is at the hitch, or cam if your lock jacking !!!