Qualifications Importance.

[telhol]

Hey cheers 4 ur input. I am in the process of booking my first courses cs30/31 followed by my cs38/39 but i had alot of trouble getting myself booked and still waiting on some dates which did put me off doing them. I hope the courses do teach me more its always welcome and then its not a waste of money but i have been taught the right way by climbers who are qualified so i should be fine and i love a challege hence to job im in.

[Yorkshireman]

Good luck !

[Lancstree]

I've been thinking about this topic lately. I've tried to explain to my employers that I would benefit from doing the following NPTCs; medium tree felling, windblown and multiple windblown and dismantling. The latter being more important because I may save myself wear and tear by being more efficient. I have experience in all those areas so my employers say these tickets are unnecessary. I'm aware that the HSE recommend (?) having the certificate of competence relevant to each task being carried out. Is it right that my employer can dismiss this?

[Andy Collins]

This is only MY opinion, but if you were asked to carry out a task, for which, in the eyes of the law, you were not deemed competetent, and something went horribly wrong, then your employers may be found at fault. this is only my limited understanding.

[Bundle 2]

There is a huge difference between the law tho' and recommended " best practice ".....I think its always a good thing to refresh training tho'...I only learnt recently that additional NPTC count the same as a refresher.....if that makes sense.

For what its worth, your boss is not doing anyone any favours with that outlook....Not the progressive attitude that could so profoundly replace it!!

[Lancstree]

I agree with both your opinions. In court, NPTC qualifications are deemed tangible evidence of competency if I'm not mistaken. Doing a new course acts as a refresher because it covers general health and safety requirements and best practice. The progressive attitude is one that I am wishing was at our work place. Doing the NPTCs I need will at the very least go in the employers favour in court but it will also improve my skill and hence production. But because it is not a requirement by law (as far as I know) to have all the relevent NPTCs, my employer will avoid this expense. The maddening thing is that they pay for refresher MEWP training when we never have enough money in the budget to hire one! They also have the cheek to show off investors in people status

[Yorkshireman]

the real difference between obtaining a nptc CoCs at entry to the industry & the ability of a skilled tradesmen, are easliy observed by seasoned practioneers.

 

practise = comercial fluidness this can only come with time at work in many senarios,

 

competance doesnt mean excellence , it is a recognised benchmark for skills to be developed from.

 

Again as for what is needed in law to use a tophandled saw requires cs 39

which requires cs38 & cs30 31,

along with others such as pa1 etc

 

the rest is upto the individual , though letting employees loose with equipment without some training ( whether this is formalised external or in house is entirely upto the manager/owner) however if the wheel comes off & you cant evidence the training, then you could be up shite creek without a paddle

Edited November 8, 2008 by Yorkshireman

[skyhuck]

 

Again as for what is needed in law to use a tophandled saw requires cs 39

which requires cs38 & cs30 31,

along with others such as pa1 etc

 

 

Or cs20,21 and 22 if your old like me.

[Mick Stockbridge]

Or cs20,21 and 22 if your old like me.

 

Have you ever done refreshers? I was told recently that it was obligatory every five years, is this true?

[Mr Ed]

Or cs20,21 and 22 if your old like me.

 

Ive still got my FTC (forestry training council) ticket from 1988.