This is the way they pollard the limes - in Glasgow

[Bundle 2]

" Often trees like these are or have been neglected pollards for a very long time (usually down to little or no money available) I have been often asked to ‘re-pollard back to original pollard-points’ because they have lapsed and the knuckles are in danger of failing. Better to do this than risk someone getting injured"

You'll get no argument from me on this issue. As lapsed pollards are they really worth the costs involved in the current management strategy?

 

"so please dont knock the L/A's just because you think they are soft targets."

John, I am entitled to my opinion and for the record, criticism is probably wasted on soft targets anyway!!

[John Hancock]

You take a tree/trees down in the city....can you imagine the amount of sh*t you get off the public for doing that!?

 

You plant some trees to replace the ones you have removed....they get snapped off!

 

You plant some more trees to replace the trees which got snapped off and guess what? They get snapped off!

 

You plant some more trees, to replace the ........and so on

 

Welcome to L/A land.

[Andy R]

no I don't have an issue with it. You quoted my "good wage" comment in with your view on uncaring and uneducated arborists, even after reading that I didn't have an issue with it. You make a good point, if in a slightly patronising and condescending manner.

 

the smilie on the end of the pedestal comment was meant to illustrate it's jovial, yet slightly cheeky intent. chill out.

[Bundle 2]

" slightly patronising and condescending " Perhaps it just the way these mawled and humiliated trees make me feel!!

[Amelanchier]

You take a tree/trees down in the city....can you imagine the amount of sh*t you get off the public for doing that!?

 

You plant some trees to replace the ones you have removed....they get snapped off!

 

You plant some more trees to replace the trees which got snapped off and guess what? They get snapped off!

 

You plant some more trees, to replace the ........and so on

 

Welcome to L/A land.

 

I hear that.

 

I used to subscribe to the "just take it out and plant a more suitable tree" mindset when I was on the tools. Its just not sustainable in practice.

 

Pollarding allows large estabished mature trees to be retained in locations where full natural crowns cannot be accommodated. If you take a wider perspective at perhaps a district level, you simply cannot sanction the removal of every tree that has a conflict just because you find pollarding distasteful. You'd wipe out vast numbers of perfectly retainable trees in a single budget year (that's even if you could afford it!) and like John says, the mortality rates of new trees means you'd need to be putting in about 3-4 trees in place for each removal.

 

A tree doesn't care what it looks like. We just happen to find good professional tree work aesthetically pleasing and appropriate works do the least harm.

[Bundle 2]

(that's even if you could afford it!)

 

So, they are expensive whatever and replacing doesnt solve the problem you reckon...

I have to say that it is a bad idea to pollard then but as times and places change their dimensions, what once seemed a good idea becomes a stone around your neck....?

Thank you for posting Tony as it makes better sense than John's post...for me anyway.

How do you explain the norwich councils pollarding of trees with developed crowns where no apparent conflict exists with environment...?

[Buzz]

Ha wasn't to many years ago on another arb site that a thread like this started a global war lol !

[Paul Barton]

Ah yes, the confessions thread - what a classic!

[Amelanchier]

How do you explain the norwich councils pollarding of trees with developed crowns where no apparent conflict exists with environment...?

 

Which ones Tim?

[taffupatree]

if you think there bad you should come have a look at the ones in monmouth s.wales.half of them need to be taken out,either suffering from root plate movement or are rotten to the core.i keep telling the supervisor but i mite aswell be banging me head on a wall!