Using both ends of the rope

[Johny Walker]

I wish you would listen to the tone of the thread.

 

This is not me blaring on at him, its just the discussion factor and me using the term argue, this is meant as a focal point of the conversation and to wit my position is shown as a disagreement.

 

Sounds like to me that you need to add constructive and relevant comments rather than leaving slightly sarcastic and unhelpful sentences.

 

Just to add, after Jones' show hes now thinking of the floating hitch setup...

 

 

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/picture-forum/45858-field-maple-dismantle.html

 

are your climbing techniques on a par wi your tree id

 

[treequip]

I wish you would listen to the tone of the thread.

 

This is not me blaring on at him, its just the discussion factor and me using the term argue, this is meant as a focal point of the conversation and to wit my position is shown as a disagreement.

 

Sounds like to me that you need to add constructive and relevant comments rather than leaving slightly sarcastic and unhelpful sentences.

 

Just to add, after Jones' show hes now thinking of the floating hitch setup...

 

 

Sorry if I got the wrong end of your thoughts, the word argument is pretty unequivocal.

 

Micks point is however the most valid, unless you are training this bloke, don't train him.

[Dan Curtis]

a rope on the floor is a sure way of getting down.

 

Not true unless you're using single rope. Don't trust that and not bother with a stopper knot

[Albedo]

I wish you would listen to the tone of the thread.

 

This is not me blaring on at him, its just the discussion factor and me using the term argue, this is meant as a focal point of the conversation and to wit my position is shown as a disagreement.

 

Sounds like to me that you need to add constructive and relevant comments rather than leaving slightly sarcastic and unhelpful sentences.

 

Just to add, after Jones' show hes now thinking of the floating hitch setup...

 

Sorry if I got the wrong end of your thoughts, the word argument is pretty unequivocal.

 

Micks point is however the most valid, unless you are training this bloke, don't train him.

 

 

Actually the word ‘argument’ .. like many words in all languages can be used in different ways.

 

It annoys me when I use it in the sense of no’s (2), (3), (4) or (5) and people take it as No (1).

 

It’s happened to me several times on this forum, and frankly, it causes a major problem, as the written word is the only tool available to us here.

 

It’s either ‘nitpicking’, or a lack of ability to understand English when someone clearly uses the word….. according to context… as (2), (3), (4) or (5) but is taken or quoted as no (1).

 

It would be nice to get this one sorted, as I don’t want to shorten my vocabulary for the sake of others.

 

ar·gu·ment 

1.

an oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: a violent argument.

2.

a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.

3.

a process of reasoning; series of reasons: I couldn't follow his argument.

4.

a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.

5.

an address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse.

[cheesmanator]

Sorry if I got the wrong end of your thoughts, the word argument is pretty unequivocal.

 

Micks point is however the most valid, unless you are training this bloke, don't train him.

 

Are we really going to draw the semantics of what I have said? Yes argument is unequivocal that why i used it. I think everyone else knew that by "my argument" was intended to define my view or my "set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong".

 

As for training him, isnt that what we all do as Primary's? He watches and asks what I'm doing and why, I then tell him/show him. So is that not in a sense training on the job.

 

I am looking for ADVICE and GUIDANCE from fellow professionals. Not a nit picking session. If i wanted that I would go see the ex.

 

On the subject of VT, I have never used the VT due to that fact, always a ditell or swaybish, schwabisch, schawbish prussic. Low and slow... i will take a look at that thread. Maybe it'll give some different perspective.

 

Johnny Walker, Please stop busting my balls , as you can see I have said I was wrong... I'm sure such a fine gent as yourself has NEVER got a tree wrong or thought it was something different.

[cheesmanator]

actually the word ‘argument’ .. Like many words in all languages can be used in different ways.

 

It annoys me when i use it in the sense of no’s (2), (3), (4) or (5) and people take it as no (1).

 

It’s happened to me several times on this forum, and frankly, it causes a major problem, as the written word is the only tool available to us here.

 

It’s either ‘nitpicking’, or a lack of ability to understand english when someone clearly uses the word….. According to context… as (2), (3), (4) or (5) but is taken or quoted as no (1).

 

It would be nice to get this one sorted, as i don’t want to shorten my vocabulary for the sake of others.

 

Ar·gu·ment 

1.

An oral disagreement; verbal opposition; contention; altercation: A violent argument.

2.

A discussion involving differing points of view; debate: They were deeply involved in an argument about inflation.

3.

A process of reasoning; series of reasons: I couldn't follow his argument.

4.

A statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.

5.

An address or composition intended to convince or persuade; persuasive discourse.

 

thanking you kindly there sir!!!

[cheesmanator]

Not true unless you're using single rope. Don't trust that and not bother with a stopper knot

 

 

How do you mean mukka?

[Mick Stockbridge]

Who put a bee in your bonnet

[Andy Collins]

Ive seen one or two climbers in my time, some have switched to newer techniques, others have stuck with how they were trained many moons ago. One thing though, each and every climber is good safe and competent in their abilities. I dont like to see a long loop trailing down, I do think it is a hazard, but with good rope management this is easily avoidable.

[dexta]

i was tought to use the other end as a work posisoner tying a bowline backed up with a figure 8 and a prussuk. cant see a problem with it. only have 1 spliced eye on the other end used with a hc, what ever works for each person i guess