PTO Driven chipper,whats the best?

[Lee Winger]

I will never own a Mog with front chipper, I don't know how hey get away with them on the road..

[madmatt]

Easy! most are taxed as Agricultural vehicles. If you look at Construction and Use Regs for Agricultural vehicles you can get away with most things. All the Agri Contractors round here Run with bloody great seed hopers on Front linkage for their drills. Its all perfectly legal! If its only on the road during daylight hrs it doesn't even require any lights!

[b101uk]

Easy! most are taxed as Agricultural vehicles. If you look at Construction and Use Regs for Agricultural vehicles you can get away with most things. All the Agri Contractors round here Run with bloody great seed hopers on Front linkage for their drills. Its all perfectly legal! If its only on the road during daylight hrs it doesn't even require any lights!

 

1: a mog can do >20mph, thus in respect of Construction and Use Regs for Agricultural vehicles they do NOT apply in the same way as with Agricultural vehicles <20mph & as mogs do >25mph then the The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations do NOT apply in the same way as with Agricultural vehicles <25mph as per "Agri Contractors round here Run with bloody great seed hopers on Front linkage for their drills"

 

2: The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, part 21:5 "A vehicle which carries a load or equipment which projects beyond the front of the vehicle more than-

(a) 2 m in the case of an agricultural vehicle or a vehicle carrying a fire escape; or

(b) 1 m in the case of any other vehicle.

 

shall have an additional front lamp capable of showing white light to the front and a white reflecting device, both visible from a reasonable distance, shall be fitted to the vehicle or the load in such a position that the distance between the lamp and the reflecting device, and the foremost projection of the load or equipment, does not exceed 2 m in the case mentioned in sub-paragraph (a) in column 2 of this item or 1 m in any other case. The intallation and performance requirements relating to front position lamps and front retro reflectors do not apply to any such additional lamp and reflecting device."

 

3: The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, part 21:6 "A vehicle which carries a load or equipment which obscures any obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking.

 

shall Either-

 

a) the obligatory lamp, reflector or rear marking shall be transferred to a position on the vehicle, load or equipment where it is not obscured; or

 

(b) an additional lamp, reflector or rear marking shall be fitted to the vehicle, load or equipment.

 

All the installation, performance and maintenance requirements relating to obligatory lamps, reflectors or rear markings shall in either case be complied with.

 

4: The Road Vehicles (Authorisation of Special Types) (General) Order 2003, SCHEDULE 8 - MARKING OF PROJECTIONS part 2 - FORWARD AND REARWARD PROJECTIONS

 

"2. Paragraphs 3 to 6 apply cumulatively.

 

General visibility of forward or rearward projections

 

3. Where the length of a forward or rearward projection of a load carried on a relevant vehicle exceeds 1 metre -

 

(a) the projection must be made clearly visible, within a reasonable distance, to a person using the road at the end of the vehicle from which the projection extends; and

 

(b) it must be made clearly visible from the side of the vehicle.

 

Markers for the end of a forward or rearward projection

 

4. - (1) Where the length of a forward or rearward projection of a load carried on a relevant vehicle exceeds 2 metres, an end marker must be fitted to the end of the projection.

 

(2) Sub-paragraph (1) does not apply if a rear marking has been fitted to the projection in accordance with regulation 21 of the Lighting Regulations.

 

(3) An end marker under sub-paragraph (1) must be fitted so that -

 

(a) it is as near as is practicable in a transverse plane;

 

(b) it is not more than 0.5 metre from the extreme end of the projection;

 

© the vertical distance between the lowest part of the end marker and the surface of the road is not more than 2.5 metres;

 

(d) the end marker, and any means by which it is fitted to the projection, impedes the view of the driver of the vehicle as little as possible; and

 

(e) the end marker is clearly visible, within a reasonable distance, to a person using the road at the end of the vehicle from which the projection extends.

 

Markers for the side of a forward or rearward projection

 

5. - (1) Where the length of a forward or rearward projection of a load carried on a relevant vehicle exceeds 3 metres, one side marker must be fitted to the right hand side of the projection and one side marker must be fitted to its left hand side.

 

(2) The side markers under sub-paragraph (1) must be fitted so that -

 

(a) each side marker is, as near as is practicable, in a longitudinal plane;

 

(b) no part of a side marker extends beyond the end of the projection;

 

© the vertical distance between the lowest part of each side marker and the surface of the road is not more than 2.5 metres;

 

(d) the horizontal distance between each side marker and the end-marker (or, as the case may be, the rear marking fitted to the projection in accordance with the Lighting Regulations) does not exceed 1 metre; and

 

(e) each side marker is clearly visible, within a reasonable distance, to a person using the road on that side of the projection.

 

6. - (1) This paragraph applies where any relevant vehicle is carrying a load and -

 

(a) the length of any forward projection of the load exceeds 4.5 metres; or

 

(b) the length of any rearward projection of the load exceeds 5 metres.

 

(2) Additional side markers must be fitted to the right hand side and the left hand side of a forward or rearward projection so that the horizontal distance between the extreme projecting points of the relevant vehicle and the nearest points of any adjacent side markers does not exceed -

 

(a) 2.5 metres in the case of a forward projection;

 

(b) 3.5 metres in the case of a rearward projection.

 

(3) The additional side markers also must be fitted to the projection so that -

 

(a) each additional side marker is, as near as is practicable, in a longitudinal plane;

 

(b) the vertical distance between the lowest part of each additional side marker and the surface of the road is not more than 2.5 metres; and

 

© each additional side marker is clearly visible, within a reasonable distance, to a person using the road on that side of the projection.

 

(4) In determining the extreme projecting points of a relevant vehicle for the purposes of sub-paragraph (2), any part of a crane or other special appliance or apparatus, which is treated as a forward projection or a rearward projection by virtue of article 6(3), is to be disregarded."

 

thus "Its all perfectly legal! If its only on the road during daylight hrs it doesn't even require any lights!" is NOT right if its like the following images

 

 

[Andy Collins]

With most vehicles it must be easier to comply with regs by rear-mounting the chipper, as all you'd need is a light-board to illuminate the rear, and show no. plate. Up front, got to ensure all lights can be seen, a lot more difficult!!

[Lee Winger]

I was referring to mogs having ''front'' mounted chippers, if you you ask me they should be classed as needing an escort vehicle whilst driving from A-B!

[Grindermech]

 

thus "Its all perfectly legal! If its only on the road during daylight hrs it doesn't even require any lights!" is NOT right if its like the following images

 

 

 

when that machine was completed it was fitted with fully compliant road lighting and markers not just as it was in the pics:wave: it was work in progress when they were taken

[Buzz]

With most vehicles it must be easier to comply with regs by rear-mounting the chipper, as all you'd need is a light-board to illuminate the rear, and show no. plate. Up front, got to ensure all lights can be seen, a lot more difficult!!

 

That's what I do Andy but many don't, i have a removable setup on the chipper trailer pin.

[b101uk]

when that machine was completed it was fitted with fully compliant road lighting and markers not just as it was in the pics it was work in progress when they were taken

 

mmm i knew i had seen it someware!

 

 

Posted 26/02/2003

Surely the best looking chip box ever fitted to a Mog! This U1750 will shortly be going to work with a Bandit chipper mounted to the front DIN plate.

 

 

Posted 16/12/2003

xxxxxxx xxxxxxx of xxxxxxx Forestry is thrilled with the performance of his new 12" bandit chipper mounted onto a U1750

 

"fully compliant road lighting and markers"

[Grindermech]

what can i say:bawling: it did when it left our workshops:proud:

 

on a different note

[b101uk]

Given its AV link, I wouldn’t dispute that!