Such a waste

[face cord]

Was walking round a local council ran woodland area were they must have have being thinning hardwood over several yrs & being leaving it. There must be say 50m3 thats just being freshly being felled & is being to rot & alot more volume that has being felled over that last few yrs & left.

 

I can understand leaving some wood stacks for fungi/bugs etc but seems such a waste to leave it all. Alot of huge diameter long straight trunks etc just felled & not cut/moved. & the smaller diameter stuff has being moved stacked

 

Suppose this happens all over the country. Council should sell some of it i reckon.

[armybloke]

Was walking round a local council ran woodland area were they must have have being thinning hardwood over several yrs & being leaving it. There must be say 50m3 thats just being freshly being felled & is being to rot & alot more volume that has being felled over that last few yrs & left.

 

I can understand leaving some wood stacks for fungi/bugs etc but seems such a waste to leave it all. Alot of huge diameter long straight trunks etc just felled & not cut/moved. & the smaller diameter stuff has being moved stacked

 

Suppose this happens all over the country. Council should sell some of it i reckon.

 

I work for a CC and we do a lot of felling too. The problem with wood disposal comes down to cost I'm afraid. It is fine to employ a contractor on a low govenment budget so we save cost by leaving arisings on site where we can. Selling wood is also a good money making scheme but I have found that whilst people want the wood they need to it close to road access, cut to a certain size and of a certain species (and the list is endless I promise). It is far easier to sequester the carbon and leave as wood piles.

 

Should you have a 'plan' I would be willing to hear of it as I think I may have exhausted my brain dreaming of making money!

[HCR]

I've worked for a council and it's very rarely viable to remove the timber once felled. It's rarely of sufficient quality to be any use other than firewood, and the cost of extracting it is more than the roadside value.

 

I worked on various 'value added' schemes and the parameters need to be just right to make it worthwhile.

 

Sometimes it's viable, but usually it isn't.

[Shane]

Arun Dc used to run a scheme where members of the public could buy some sort of 'gatherers license' which entitled them to take fallen/cut timber from woodland.

I think there was a caveat that you could not use motorised vehicles in the woods but they had a few takers and must have collected some money.

 

IIRC it was certainly happening in the mid 90s - Thats all I recall

[HCR]

Arun Dc used to run a scheme where members of the public could buy some sort of 'gatherers license' which entitled them to take fallen/cut timber from woodland.

I think there was a caveat that you could not use motorised vehicles in the woods but they had a few takers and must have collected some money.

 

IIRC it was certainly happening in the mid 90s - Thats all I recall

 

The common sense of that approach goes without saying.

 

Then some pillock goes and injures themselves whilst dragging a whacking great log away and is advised (quite correctly) by a solicitor that they have a case for a claim.

[DN22 Gardening]

The common sense of that approach goes without saying.

 

Then some pillock goes and injures themselves whilst dragging a whacking great log away and is advised (quite correctly) by a solicitor that they have a case for a claim.

 

Why (quite correctly) ?????

 

there's too much 'wheres theres blame theres a claim' IMO

 

what happened to common sense ? i'd personally hang 90% of claimants

 

if the logs too big, cut the thing, if you happen to cut your leg off while cutting it, tuff, you should be more careful.

 

someone tried to break into our sheds last wednesday, i managed to scare them off before they got too much, but in the process was threatened with a knife.

when the police came and took my statement she stated that if i had injured one of the scroats while defending myself they would have a good case against me !!!!!!!

 

WTF is the world coming to...

 

rant over

[Rob D]

How about getting in there with mobile saw milling equipment, milling the timber, making benches etc?

 

 

Not an option for Jo public but if you're a pro who already has treework type insurance it's not much to add mobile saw milling as part of your remit.

 

 

In the summer working with a lad and a trolley you can still get to very hard to reach timber.

 

 

Also when the council look at the costs of 'not being able to viably move it or do anything with it' that's not necessarily true of other independent set ups.... Most of my timber I get is all 'not viable for anyone to do anything with'....

[HCR]

Why (quite correctly) ?????

 

WTF is the world coming to...

 

rant over

 

Occupiers' liability - if the person was a trespasser you'd have a much stronger defence, but once they're invited in you have to be careful.

 

I fully agree that it's ridiculous by the way, but on the flip side you can get round it by showing that you had taken all reasonable steps to warn the person of the danger. That tends to be where the common sense part falls down

[face cord]

Its not very hard to acess some is stacked is only a few meters from a carpark & there are serval tarmac paths thoughout the area. You could load a big trailer full in a few minutes.

 

Can understand your points though I suppose...

[felixthelogchopper]

Occupiers' liability - if the person was a trespasser you'd have a much stronger defence, but once they're invited in you have to be careful.

 

I fully agree that it's ridiculous by the way, but on the flip side you can get round it by showing that you had taken all reasonable steps to warn the person of the danger. That tends to be where the common sense part falls down

 

If the rules are clearly stated and they break the rules, they are deemed to be trespassers ab initio and therefore have less protection in law