Counterfeit saw eBay

[felixthelogchopper]

A aprticularly stupid one .

 

My point exactly. People who use kit like this every day can spot fake stuff easily but the average man in the street outside of his field of experience is far less likely to do so. Counterfeiting like this is endemic on auction sites like Ebay. There is a particularly thriving trade in snide North Face clothing and I would struggle to be able to identify it whereas somebody who sells it or uses it would have no problem. I agree with Rob's point that a chainsaw with good safety features in amateur hands, while still obviously dangerous, is hopefully safer than a fake without them.

[mendiplogs]

My point exactly. People who use kit like this every day can spot fake stuff easily but the average man in the street outside of his field of experience is far less likely to do so. Counterfeiting like this is endemic on auction sites like Ebay. There is a particularly thriving trade in snide North Face clothing and I would struggle to be able to identify it whereas somebody who sells it or uses it would have no problem. I agree with Rob's point that a chainsaw with good safety features in amateur hands, while still obviously dangerous, is hopefully safer than a fake without them.

 

HI felix your right there mate went to a car boot sale sunday there where north face clothing snow and is the place to get it and for saw its jones thanks jon

[GardenKit]

I would have thought that most amateur users would assume that its a Stihl,even without the name on it, that is until they have bought it and it arrives. Many may still not be sure even then as they dont know the saws as we do.

 

The crunch comes for most of these nieve purchasers when they come to use it and it does not start, or bogs down.

 

They then come to us, the dealer trade and we have to break the bad news to them that they have bought a dud.

 

I, for one, wont contemplate a repair on such a machine.

 

For a start, there is no spares backup, and secondly, once we have touched it and got it going properly (possibly) we take on future responsibilty.

The next time it broke down they would be in saying "you just mended this and its gone wrong again, I,m not impressed with you"

I can live without that hastle, but it is a shame that people are so easily duped.

[felixthelogchopper]

HI felix your right there mate went to a car boot sale sunday there where north face clothing snow and is the place to get it and for saw its jones thanks jon

 

Agreed, Jon. No substitute for buying the genuine article from a reliable outlet.

[samthescam]

I would have thought that most amateur users would assume that its a Stihl,even without the name on it, that is until they have bought it and it arrives. Many may still not be sure even then as they dont know the saws as we do.

 

The crunch comes for most of these nieve purchasers when they come to use it and it does not start, or bogs down.

 

They then come to us, the dealer trade and we have to break the bad news to them that they have bought a dud.

 

I, for one, wont contemplate a repair on such a machine.

 

For a start, there is no spares backup, and secondly, once we have touched it and got it going properly (possibly) we take on future responsibilty.

The next time it broke down they would be in saying "you just mended this and its gone wrong again, I,m not impressed with you"

I can live without that hastle, but it is a shame that people are so easily duped.

 

That sounds like my 201t... Maybe the dealers have been sent out a batch of fake saws, cos this thing was useless today.

[pleasant]

I would have thought that most amateur users would assume that its a Stihl,even without the name on it, that is until they have bought it and it arrives. Many may still not be sure even then as they dont know the saws as we do.

 

The crunch comes for most of these nieve purchasers when they come to use it and it does not start, or bogs down.

 

They then come to us, the dealer trade and we have to break the bad news to them that they have bought a dud.

 

I, for one, wont contemplate a repair on such a machine.

 

For a start, there is no spares backup, and secondly, once we have touched it and got it going properly (possibly) we take on future responsibilty.

The next time it broke down they would be in saying "you just mended this and its gone wrong again, I,m not impressed with you"

I can live without that hastle, but it is a shame that people are so easily duped.

 

 

True- my policy is the same. I'm even reluctant to supply a new chain for them to be honest. However I will make a point based on my experience of these types of saws and talking to their purchasers. 8 out of 10 purchasers of these saws that come in to my premises KNOW they have purchased a copy saw and they purchased it because it was cheap for the size of saw they were getting. From my experience don't be naive to think everyone that buys these doesn't know what they are getting- people DO research before making a considered purchase, especially something like a saw that they have probably never purchased before and are not going to throw away after it's been used the once.

[Pedroski]

Has anyone here actually purchased a 'fake' saw and can confirm the lack of safety features? Just wondering what they are like in real life.

[Mesterh]

Looks bigger than a 20" bar!

[pleasant]

Before you all start turning your noses up about Chinese saws, may I suggest you consider exactly how many components on your current "branded" saw originate from the same Chinese factories that produce these "copies" I guarantee you will be surprised.

 

Stihl, Husky, Briggs & Stratton and Honda to name but a few major players all now have factories in China producting either complete products and components for their machines to be assembled elsewhere

[GardenKit]

I agree totally, but as I have said in other threads,China is a very big place with a great diversity of manufacturing.

They can, and do, build some quality kit for Western suppliers who specify and oversee the production. Mitox saws, for instance are very good.

But, they can also build rubbish for mail order and online suppliers with no service or spares backup.

The average domestic purchaser has no idea of this diversity.