Own Up!?!

[Taupotreeman]

Another one for you. The reason they are topped is to keep the afluent property owners behind them happy by retaining lake views.

 

Current council tree and berm policy allows for trees to be topped for views when they have been topped before to retain views. I sat in on a councillors meeting the other day where a couple of millionaire landowners want trees topped so they have an uninterupted view of the lake. The likelihood is that the trees (some of them mature oaks) will be topped again and again to give those people those views. Unfortunately removal and replanting has not come in to the equation so far because council does not see anything wrong with topping. The resource management act had just been altered to allow pruning of trees on private property without gaining resource consent, including topping. And Rob D is bang on. You don't do what the customer wants (the customer always knows best) and you get a bad rep and no further work. Word of mouth works fast in a small town.

[atree]

Nice view,spoiled by butcherd trees.But customers knows best,I know i'm over cutting trees in half or 1/3 but i just get told what to do.

[Taupotreeman]

Nice view,spoiled by butcherd trees.But customers knows best,I know i'm over cutting trees in half or 1/3 but i just get told what to do.

 

You said it bro. I'm hoping that now I'm working for them I might be able to remove some of the poorer specimens and replant with a few natives but I've already been toold that I might be pushing the proverbial up hill with a sharp stick because several of the councillors like them and one actually planted them. I have to do a full on plan and explanantion and then present it to council just to get them to even consider it!!!

[atree]

You said it bro. I'm hoping that now I'm working for them I might be able to remove some of the poorer specimens and replant with a few natives but I've already been toold that I might be pushing the proverbial up hill with a sharp stick because several of the councillors like them and one actually planted them. I have to do a full on plan and explanantion and then present it to council just to get them to even consider it!!!

 

Well good luck with that!

 

Things have to change now and again.

[David Humphries]

Topped trees can & do get managed.

 

Can we gaurantee that all (compromised) removed trees 'will' get replaced by a suitable replant ?

 

Can we gaurantee that these replacements will survive to replace the removed trees in the landsape in to the future ?

 

 

Where's the evidence that shows that it's regrowths that fail & kill people in tree/people related accidents ?

 

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[Taupotreeman]

Unfortunately several of these council ones get hammered every year Monkey and don't look at all attractive. I'd prefer to take them out and put in a lower growing native that isn't going to get mangled every year for the sake of a view. Those ones in your pictures though look quite spectacular as they're allowed to reform and do their thing. Will the replacements survive? Good question. We've had several ripped out my the local youth who seem to find it funny. The plan is to take some of the Pin Oaks out a couple at a time and replant in stages (if we can talk the councillors into it) to see how they go.

 

I'll take a couple of photos of some that have been allowed to grow out a little more. They look like mushrooms when they are done but still add something to the streetscape.

 

As for the regrowth failure? I can't say that I see many and I haven't heard of one that has killed someone. In fact, we had a massive storm roll through here recently and it took out an entire road of mature standing trees. No damage to any trees that had been topped though. Funny that.

[Dean Lofthouse]

I think we are confusing a well managed pollarded tree with a butchered tree here chaps.

 

A managed pollard, with good pollard heads are a sight to behold

 

An unmanaged butchered tree with epicormic poles everywhere, some of which are growing from a 12" stub end, which trys to compartment off but fails is not.

 

This ash was butchered many years ago, a branch failed with the niegbour underneath the tree one day, luckily it hung up and he was spared, you can see the hanger in the first pic, the second pic, is the reason why it failed

 

Pic 3 is how it ended up

 

The branch had an 8" dia stub, no-one died but the potential was there.

 

I've never come across a death, but I have come across hundreds of death traps

 

A pollard is an art form, a topping is not and is totally unacceptable in my view

Edited June 11, 2011 by Dean Lofthouse

[felixthelogchopper]

Nice chair, Dean, but crap clean up!

[David Humphries]

 

A managed pollard, with good pollard heads are a sight to behold

 

 

 

It certainly is Deano, it certainly is

 

 

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[Dean Lofthouse]

Nice chair, Dean, but crap clean up!

 

"The sawdust will enrich your soil missus, and make your plants grow like they do at the chelsea show, honest"