Anyone heard of this

[Ian150482]

I've known climbers use both ends of their ropes for years, never heard of this happening. Is this a hypothetical scenario, or is it recorded for causing accidents?

 

 

 

I've known climbers too, that climb this way. It may have been a hypothetical, because he didnt mention any stats.

 

I just think its a bit much having all those ropes flapping around with you waiting to get tangled in surley thats a risk in itself.

[vduben]

Do you know of anyone whose been arrested and charged!!!! ???

re: bad practice:thumbdown:

[Jim]

I recently did my CS38 training and was only shown to climb on both ends of the rope and wasn't even shown a lanyard....!

Jim (newbie, greenhorn blah...)

[Ian150482]

im just suprised at what the tutor said about everyone tutor should be teaching you to climb this way, like you said Jim, if you had him to asses you, or me, it would of been a straight fail.

[Dean Lofthouse]

I recently did my CS38 training and was only shown to climb on both ends of the rope and wasn't even shown a lanyard....!

Jim (newbie, greenhorn blah...)

 

And so he should.

 

If for some reason, you found yourself with no side strop or lanyard, you would still be able to carry out the job and not stand there scratching your head.

 

All you need is your rope and a crab. I think it is good that people carry the knowledge, just because they teach you this method they are not saying you should use it.

[skyhuck]

And so he should. :

 

All you need is your rope and a crab. I think it is good that people carry the knowledge, just because they teach you this method they are not saying you should use it.

 

Whats the crab for just tie straight to the harness........ ............. come to think of it why not tie a harness out of your rope!!!!

 

Why do we waste so much money on all this unnecessary gear:confused1:

[Dean Lofthouse]

come to think of it why not tie a harness out of your rope!!!!

 

 

Exactly, you might wake up one morning and forget everything and turn up to work in just your socks with a rope.

 

Hey, at least you'll be able to climb the tree and let all your worries melt away.

[Khriss]

I have been doing my Ua1 coarse, whilst doing it we got onto talking about climbing and aerial rescue, the way i was tought was to get a high anchor, blah blah............... So in total that 4 ropes you'd have excluding your lanyard. Does anyone else think this is a bit OTT?

 

First i heard of this.

Hope it makes sence.

 

Firstly, this job is about work positioning for pruning/cutting. I have seen a lot of systems in my time plus a lot of climbers, I think the current stuff taught by instructors / colleges / LANTRA ect needs a big overhaul. Would like to see a LOT MORE COMMENT on this site on these matters. Safe work systems are either ignored or confuse / slow down new climbers who then end up adopting unsafe methods -to get the job done. Then we wonder why every year there is a steady batch of dreadful injuries/deaths.

 

I climb with one rope and VT hitch, set as high as is practicable. When cutting ( or changeover ) -my cable strop is always around a secure branch- with this system I am always in balance ( reduced body stress + accurate cutting possition ) and cannot have a rope-cuthrough or fall of more than a meter or so. Hope this helps,

 

K

[Will]

Is your UA1 instructor a qualified climbing instructor. I ask, because my UA1 examiner was a Western Power Distribution employee. He is a qualified NPTC assesser, he knew everything about powerlines, trees and correct pruning methods but had never climbed a tree in his life.

[mattylee]

you only use both ends of the rope for the first climb to acces your anchor point!

 

Then untie your other end and drop it get rid of it leaving you with just your "work positioning strop"and "re-directs"

 

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