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[skyhuck]

Dave, I would imagine you could just about crane out the tops on that tree with your palfinger?

 

Yes, we would strip out the brash and chip up, then crane out the timber in 4.5M lengths straight into the trailer:001_cool:

[skyhuck]

You must have very little competition in your area. As for rushing around, I would do that comfortably in a day without breaking a sweat with 2 men.

 

[Mani]

£400 per man per day I need to move!

 

I dont work out the cost per man day/hours.

 

From that tree i'd pocket £1000 net

 

Groundie - £200

 

Diesel/vehicle/chipper/saws costs - £200

 

Insurance contribution PL/EL etc - £100

 

Disposal fees - £100

 

= £ 1600

 

One thing I learnt very early on in treework is people will pay whatever if they trust you as a person. Most of the work is done on the doorstep or in the garden discussing the tree etc.

[THE88MAN]

You must have very little competition in your area. As for rushing around, I would do that comfortably in a day without breaking a sweat with 2 men.

just what i was thinking mr ed,trees in front gardens halve the job(almost).£1600 quid is good money if you can get it eh? but how many of us could realistically? half that more like (p.s bet my chicken phall would make you sweat ) steve

[skyhuck]

just what i was thinking mr ed,trees in front gardens halve the job(almost).

 

If you have a crane, good access can reduce a job by way more than half.

[conkers]

looking at some of the quotes here, i'd say many of you guys are still using prices from 10 years ago.

 

my price of £1600 no vat allows me and my other worker to do the job in 2 days in a professional and calm manner and actually enjoy the process of bringing a tree like that down and away without rushing around like bampots. we regularly remove trees that size for £1600 or more depending on access etc. Never had any complaints from customers, in fact they have been full of praise for the work we done and are happy to pay the bill.

 

Dont sell yourselves short, value your skills and professionalism and realise that in order to be a successful tree surgeon you have to charge high prices. Otherwise its just a serious hobby that pays very little.

 

Totally agree with you- we all need to have a pro pricing policy. Prices on this thread are all over the place, but the reality is that if love what you do and you want to keep doing it and the compitition is tight then you are destined to be happy but with cash flow issues!

I think in a perfect world and with arb costs the way they are it should be 1200 +vat

[Mani]

You must have very little competition in your area. As for rushing around, I would do that comfortably in a day without breaking a sweat with 2 men.

 

There's about 20 companies within a 50 miles radius here, but the poor treework done by some of them would rulle them out of a tree like that. Also, many of the companies are run by dodgy types who wouldn't get the work based on their appearance or way.

from what i seen on this site, I'd say most of the tree surgeons here (myself incuded) could have that tree de-limbed by lunch, stem finished by about 1.30/2.00pm or earlier with a three man crew, good chipper and tip truck.

 

But, why would you want to do it that fast? Because you charged too little in the past and you had to work fast on every job to make a decent margin? this is a downward spiral of chasing the work and its bad for the wallet and personal life.

 

Especially the guy who owns a crane, surely you should charge more for specialist equipment? otherwise whats the point in owning a crane?

[Mr Ed]

Crane = same money with only 10% of the effort.

 

Mani, in one way I admire your atitude BUT...

I can only say that you will probabaly suffer a great deal in the coming recession. I think its unreasnoble to earn £1000 a day profit out of domestic treework

I have run Tubgrinders, 500hp chippers, forwarders, excavators and harvesters - mega ££££ worth of kit and rarely earned that kind of money.

[Mani]

Crane = same money with only 10% of the effort.

 

Mani, in one way I admire your atitude BUT...

I can only say that you will probabaly suffer a great deal in the coming recession. I think its unreasnoble to earn £1000 a day profit out of domestic treework

I have run Tubgrinders, 500hp chippers, forwarders, excavators and harvesters - mega ££££ worth of kit and rarely earned that kind of money.

 

I dont earn £1000 every day and thats my point, you never know where the next paycheck is coming from in tree surgery so you have to wager on the client accepting a high price which leaves you with more money to fall back on in hard times. Thats how I do it. Itys worked for many years now and I have a decent nest egg for your coming recession.

 

Re crane - it should not be the same money, if you have invested in a crane you deserve to be paid more if you do a professional job, thats what seperates the amateur from the professional. The guy here that owns the crane deserves more than £950 + vat, he needs to cover the cost of the crane and his professionalism.

 

If he does it quicker/slightly less effort with the crane its irrelevant. Speed/slightly less effort is irrelevant, money on the other hand is not.

[b101uk]

Re crane - it should not be the same money, if you have invested in a crane you deserve to be paid more if you do a professional job, thats what seperates the amateur from the professional. The guy here that owns the crane deserves more than £950 + vat, he needs to cover the cost of the crane and his professionalism.

 

If he does it quicker/slightly less effort with the crane its irrelevant. Speed/slightly less effort is irrelevant, money on the other hand is not.

 

You invest in a crane it speeds up most jobs somehow.

 

If jobs speed up you charge the “same amount” as without the crane BUT you do it faster, ergo you earn more per hour.

 

You obviously fail to grasp this concept as you say this

“If he does it quicker with the crane its irrelevant. Speed is irrelevant, money on the other hand is not.”

time is money