V.T.A symptoms "the chatty trees"

[Treecreeper1961]

you should read in the face of failure and design rules after nature by Mattheck, you would enjoy them

 

So much reading to do, such a small brain to do it with.

[RobRainford]

This one needs a bit of reducing I think!

[treeseer]

This one needs a bit of reducing I think!

 

Seems to need crown cleaning even more--with that crack, getting weight off seems like a plan.

 

Then a cable would protect the structure long-term.

[David Humphries]

Seems to need crown cleaning even more--with that crack, getting weight off seems like a plan.:

 

& perhaps resurect the removed habitat back upright, secured to the trunk.

 

 

 

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[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

This one needs a bit of reducing I think!

 

Seems to need crown cleaning even more--with that crack, getting weight off seems like a plan.

 

Then a cable would protect the structure long-term.

 

why why why?

 

this crack is old, the tree is dying back and lightening itself off, it is in a field.

 

 

sometimes nature should be left to do her thang:001_smile:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

One of my fave things to do when out and about is try to determine which trees will fail first in a given population, this wood today is right up my street as they say! This cherry, Prunus avium is being brown rotted by Laetiporus sulphereus, a rot that P. avium never survives indefinatley without serious structural modifications. The language in this is clear, major decay and hollowing ( though not hollowing in the true sense, just modified wood) with shear cracks forming on the tension sides as she delaminates before she goes down.

 

Its the body language that guides us, too much work is proposed with little attention to thorough reading of the structures of trees, they will tell you when they are in trouble, there is always a sign, you just have to listen. Becoming very familiar with the trees in your local woods and practising this is the best possible experience you can gain, there is no risk to anyone from the trees in the wild woods and you can re visit them for years and years and perfect your skills. In time youll learn what defects are truly worth worrying about and which are a long long way from becoming an issue. and if your wrong and it fails or if your right, it doesnt matter, you will gain everytime.

 

 

Here is another great example of a tree that was telling us she was in trouble before she went down, the bark was delaminating on the tension side and as it increased with growth to the point of no return a good wind was the final push for a shear rootball failure. Larches are a realy good tree for illustrating this bark delaminating.

 

[John Shutler]

i wondered about this the other day

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

i wondered about this the other day

 

initial thoughts armillaria colonised a root which died and has caused the bark sink, got a higher stem shot from the image in 2?

[John Shutler]

no, it terminated at the point at the top of the picture below a tertiary branch so i ddnt take a photo any higher

there seems to be a fair bit of of Armillaria throughout the site, we removed a 40 inch Sweet chestnut last year that had succumed and theres another of a similar size that is suffering.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

no, it terminated at the point at the top of the picture below a tertiary branch so i ddnt take a photo any higher

there seems to be a fair bit of of Armillaria throughout the site, we removed a 40 inch Sweet chestnut last year that had succumed and theres another of a similar size that is suffering.

 

 

if sweet chestnut succumbs to mellea there is an underlying issue, what is the site groundwork history? any leaky drains?