Land rover cherry picker chassis failures

[Kev Stephenson]

As far as I know, the basic chassis of a defender has not changed in nearly 30 years:confused1:

 

The design hasn't but has the origin and quality of the steel?

[tommer9]

I did my 4 year apprenticeship with locomotors building specialist vehicles. We would not have built a vehicle like that on that chassis. If you look at the first picture who in their right mind would put that sort of weight on a 2mm box section 150mm x 75mm . That kit would have been put on something like a 7 tonne renault chassis or by todays standard a mit canter.

 

Its a bit more than a 2mm box section, as it has strengthening bits and pieces internally.

[18 stoner]

The design hasn't but has the origin and quality of the steel?

 

Not sure Kev, whats happened?

[tommer9]

The design hasn't but has the origin and quality of the steel?

 

I wonder about the quality of steel too; its well known that steel does vary. HOwever it also made sense to me about the rigidity of the lift set up making the chassis too rigid, and the stresses that would have transferred throughout the chassis become focused on one spot.

[twistedhicap]

Not sure Kev, whats happened?

 

my 1894 110 chassis is made from better steel than the later ones i have worked on many many LRs welding and the like and IMO the chassis have become more like tissue paper the younger they get ! its a shame as the chassis and the bulkheads are the two itewms that let LR down on longevity ! Like it has been said how much of these faliurs are down to point loadings, poor fore thought of design and mountings, reduction of flex, and poor operator training when setting up the lift as said in the article its possible that continued force could be put on the chassis via poor judgement in deployment of the stabiliser legs etc !

[gensetsteve]

A percentage of new steel is now recycled but they struggle to get silicons out. If you buy a galv trailer check the plating is not peeling off or discoloured. Also check the chassis is not twisted as they heat them so hard now to make the galv stick.

[TRADITIONAL LOGGERS]

That looks dangerous.

 

Chassis on modern Land Rovers should last ten years of average work use without painting/underseals. Less with hard commercial use and manure.

[High Scale]

A company I used to sub for would keep standard springs on the Landrover hoists they used, the drive was sloppy as hell but they kept them standard to prevent the chassis breaking.

[gensetsteve]

Its a bit more than a 2mm box section, as it has strengthening bits and pieces internally.

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some rust a hand full of left over nuts and bolts a ballot paper and a betting slip Solihulls finest

[Logrover]

hmmm looks bad this but id expect it to be due to crap build quality and overloading etc. My series 1 1955 has a well thick chassis and so has hardly had any welding done in the last 50 odd years and i have had 3 1988 ish 110s that had spot on thickish but not as thick as the series 1 chassis. But then again my dads old series 3 rotted like mad as there was a bad batch of steel in some of them so.....anyones guess! but i agree that the newer ones are nowhere near as hardy as was the original idea.....shelf life i imagine.