First Aid Kits on Harness

[andythesquirel]

First aid training should teach improvisation.

 

Otherwise we'd be all stuffed if we came across a casualty in the middle of no-where and we didn't have a first aid kit or field dressing.

 

Shock horror what would we do without one

 

I agree with you Dean. First aid should be about improvisation. But, in a serious situation, you can't beat having the proper equipment to hand.

I've carried out first aid many times on casualties, ranging from minor to serious. I have used many items lying about to assist me, but these items will never do the job as effectively as one that is designed for purpose.

[bob]

A: Improvise (something we should all be able to do)

 

B: Get the kit from the tool box 10ft away.

 

how would you improvise for this then and do you always carry your tool box 10 ft from where you are i recon even if so how would you carry it up the tree

come on get a first aid kit and be responsible

[MasterBlaster]

Should we also carry a phone and card with grid reference on.

..where does it become rediculous?

 

When you do that "grid reference thing."

[Dean Lofthouse]

i agree bro about improvisation but my first aid kit is for climbing and not finding caualties in the middle of nowhere:001_smile:

 

That is a very likely scenario in forestry.

[Dean Lofthouse]

how would you improvise for this then and do you always carry your tool box 10 ft from where you are i recon even if so how would you carry it up the tree

come on get a first aid kit and be responsible

 

Basic stuff Bob, I'm suprised the Council haven't taught you better first aid.

 

We all carry tornoquets, either in sling form or a 100ft rope.

 

Put a sling round the arm, basket it and twist tight using the silky sheath as a lever.

 

Come on, give us something a little more difficult.

 

 

...and yes, the toolbox is very close all the time. I just don't agree carrying so much cr@p up the tree with me.

[Mesterh]

The less stuff attached to my harness the better.

Allways have a first aid kit in the van and in everyones kit bag which is usually fairly close to the tree ya climbing.

In the event of an accident I have the get yourself out the tree or die mentality so probably no time to mess about with bandages.

[Mac McLennan]

Do not have a first aid kit on harness. But do have a shell dressing taped to it. Not too much tape incase you need it in a hurry.

 

Would like to see what's in some of those personal first aid kits.....Bet they are as much use as tits on a fish. .....And when climbing how many people could actually get to them on the back of their harness.

 

Would agree with Dean tho.......get on the ground as soon as you can.

 

REMEMBER THE SEVEN Ps

 

Prior planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance.

 

Hence I will donate to the Paras...and hopefully get the new style FFD.

[Mesterh]

Btw a tourniquet is a last resort usually resulting in more damage than good. Direct pressure to the wound is the first thing to do followed by elevation then indirect pressure to the artery.

[Pete Mctree]

For those who don't know- that's a pic of my right arm. I lascerated the bracial artery, so after such a serious bleed i feel qualified to comment upon such incidents.

 

2 large wound dressings were applied, and I slowed the bleeding using a toniquet and brute force (until medical help arrived). So if a climber descends from a tree bleeding, and all you have to do is run towards him to locate a dressing- fantastic! Run towards the truck- er- no thanks.

 

This thread raises valid points- but if you choose not to carry one, it may be your own life that is put in the balance. Sorry if i'm bleating on again, but this is IMPORTANT

[madmatt]

My accident was on the ground, I had a 660 kick back and lucily was only cliped by a braked chain, however I had the large filed dressing in my pocket, I was so glad it was there I had it out and on in seconds, I didn't have to move. The Field kit was only 20 feet away, but just after the shock of a 660 kicking back 20 feet may as well have been 20 miles. And yep on the rare occasions I climb there is a kit on my harness.