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also hope steve dont mind this thread being hijacked in this manner but i may be wrong but looking at your pic vdub of your rope grab but i thought that you were not allowed to use the pin type grab ( the one with a clevis pin holding the centre pin in ) without a form of backup ( eg secondary prussik) im not being mr h&s all i am doing is making you aware of if the pin falls out i would not like to think of consequences iirc it should be the fixed type ( bolted) .as i say i may be wrong if so ignore me :) im an :asshole2:

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also hope steve dont mind this thread being hijacked in this manner but i may be wrong but looking at your pic vdub of your rope grab but i thought that you were not allowed to use the pin type grab ( the one with a clevis pin holding the centre pin in ) without a form of backup ( eg secondary prussik) im not being mr h&s all i am doing is making you aware of if the pin falls out i would not like to think of consequences iirc it should be the fixed type ( bolted) .as i say i may be wrong if so ignore me :) im an :asshole2:

it has a pin but is spring loaded with quite a strong spring and the pin sits in quite far, ive never had a problem with it and a guy who i used to work with has had a similar set up for over10 years and never had a problem, i would agree that a fixed grab would be better.....

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put it this way if you are worried about the strength of your soft link i would begin to worry about the strength of your karabiners my soft link i use is rated at 22kn and the karabinbers are rated at 25kn and if i have done this right the yale wire core flipline is rated @ 2400kg maximum breaking strain which works out at about 2 400 kilogram-force = 23.535 96 kilonewton basically 24kn.....

 

Too right tim, but i would like to add to what you say, that doing as pete says, in a risky situation putting your flip line to the D will save you getting squashed to the stem, BUT in this case you should definately not bypass your soft link. That is your means of rescue, and obviously its already known this would be an action taken in tricky situation.

 

Not lecturing vduben, just trying to refresh a few minds as to why the soft link is put in the lanyard.:151:

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