threading the needle

[lendahand]

i think only members who have put their own videos up should be allowed to comment on others::

 

Crikey: Someone will have the have idea of no commenting on anyones posts at all next, unless...............

[treemeup]

......we all behave like adults?

[Dean Lofthouse]

I would hope we would all have the judgement to either use or discard this method appropriately, even maybe comment their thoughts on using this technique. I would not however advocate some sort of character assassination on the poster as, if it works for them then good luck to them, at least someone would have warned them!(the beauty of forums, info can pass both ways and we can again use or discard the information given)

 

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Thats all well and good if the reader bothers to go past the first post and read the comments. You cannot guarantee that a newbie will.

 

Someone may just watch the video from youtube or on the first post here and not see any feedback.

 

Unsafe practices should not be posted in the first place to avoid this happening.

 

As for character assassination, how many nice negative comments does it take for someone to stop their prolific posting on multiple forums of dangerous techniques, short of calling someone a blithering idiot.

 

Dadio posted a vid of him at work doing his thing (one of his first vids), I enjoyed that and dont have a problem with that, what I do have a problem with is when he seems to go into "teacher" mode passing off dangerous techniques as the way to do it

 

If you advocate these then you are imo sending out bad signals

[skyhuck]

This is a point on which we disagree..

MY opinion: People think the techniques demonstrated are unsafe, risky, lucky etc.. because it is either over their heads (beyond their set of experieinces), or they misinterpret the videos and the explanations as they never give the full story. there is just far too much going on to explain and show it all on a shoe-string budget..

 

Surely that is the very reason you should not post the things you do!!!!!

 

IMO you need years of experience before you should even contemplate trying unorthodox techniques, so showing them to an unknown audience is reckless and down right dangerous!!

[dadio]

The techniques are safe... If you don't think so, then I need to explain why that is, which is often because there was a lot more going on than what is shown or explained in the video. Based on many of the comments on the American sites, the other reason I need to explain why the techniques are safe is because the critics lack the skills and experience to understand the complexities of work done on this level.

 

I have had to explain things over and over and over again, so many times to so many people, that I have had to conclude that there are a lot of cluless arborists on these sites. After putting up over 30 of these videos, it has started occuring to the Americans, that it isn't just luck, and I have recieved a few apologies, as people tried my recommended techniques and found them useful. Many of the more experienced American arborists that used to be harsh critics of my postings and videos, have learned better and come around to giving this body of work the respect that it deserves.

[josharb87]

i dont frequent other forums, so dadio has a clean slate with me on here, what in this video was dangerous? everything seemed calculated, everything went well. back cut is intresting, but just a diffrent technique from a diffrent country.

keep the videos coming dadio, its intresting to me seeing diffrent techniques

[dadio]

Surely that is the very reason you should not post the things you do!!!!!

 

IMO you need years of experience before you should even contemplate trying unorthodox techniques, so showing them to an unknown audience is reckless and down right dangerous!!

 

I give people more credit than that. Anyone that picks up a saw should have the sense to know that he is working with a powerful tool that has the potential of doing some damage. I think people have the sense to realize when a technique is beyond their skill level.

 

And furthermore believe that these videos/explanations are far more likely to save a life, as they put valuable information in the hands of many that are skilled and smart enough to use it wisely.

[Dean Lofthouse]

The techniques are safe... If you don't think so, then I need to explain why that is, which is often because there was a lot more going on than what is shown or explained in the video. Based on many of the comments on the American sites, the other reason I need to explain why the techniques are safe is because the critics lack the skills and experience to understand the complexities of work done on this level.

 

I have had to explain things over and over and over again, so many times to so many people, that I have had to conclude that there are a lot of cluless arborists on these sites. After putting up over 30 of these videos, it has started occuring to the Americans, that it isn't just luck, and I have recieved a few apologies, as people tried my recommended techniques and found them useful. Many of the more experienced American arborists that used to be harsh critics of my postings and videos, have learned better and come around to giving this body of work the respect that it deserves.

 

Mmmmm

[lendahand]

i dont frequent other forums, so dadio has a clean slate with me on here, what in this video was dangerous?

 

Assuming you're not winding us all up: The work was breaking with convention in other words carried out in an unorthodox manner. He should have used a bigger MEWP and pieced it down carefully in small bits: size depending on the SWL in the basket, to the finished height. It would'nt have made such a good film but that's tough. Typically you would have been cutting pieces that were liftable by the operator.

Camera work was great and he talked us through it nicely but if anyone new in the game is going to fell trees 3 or 4 metres up they better get plenty of insurance. Escape route? Where was it?

[Stephen Blair]

Assuming you're not winding us all up: The work was breaking with convention in other words carried out in an unorthodox manner. He should have used a bigger MEWP and pieced it down carefully in small bits: size depending on the SWL in the basket, to the finished height. It would'nt have made such a good film but that's tough. Typically you would have been cutting pieces that were liftable by the operator.

Camera work was great and he talked us through it nicely but if anyone new in the game is going to fell trees 3 or 4 metres up they better get plenty of insurance. Escape route? Where was it?