Sub contracting

[skyhuck]

I have always been self employed and a suby climber within 2 years of teaching my self to climb.

 

I think it very much depends on who you are climbing for and what their expectations are.

[Littletree]

Hi there Yes you will get nervous with every new company or new customer you go to work for weather it be for climbing or grounding as a subby as you want to live up to there expiations of you and do an excellent job for them and hope they are nice to work for and the other lads expatations etc this will never go away as its normal for any new place you go to work at .

 

The best way to beat to deal with this is be Very honest with the person you are going to work for . I always lay it on the table what I can and cannot do for them and what I have and not have done before. I always spend a bit of time with them making sure they know my cans and cannots before agreeing to the job. . never tell them that you have done more then you have this way you will not have to worry and you can concentrate on just doing a great job and have great fun along the way too .

 

All the best and

Good luck with going self employed

Littltree:thumbup:

[Tom D]

I went self employed with under 2 years experience, and much of that was ground work. However I was only doing my own jobs, I wouldn't have had the confidence or ability to go somewhere else as a subby climber.

 

If your income depends on getting the job done you'll soon get good. however finding subby work with so little experience would be hard I reckon.

[Steve Bullman]

 

If your income depends on getting the job done you'll soon get good. however finding subby work with so little experience would be hard I reckon.

 

depends how realistic you are with your pricing

[Tom D]

depends how realistic you are with your pricing

 

True:001_smile:

[Frank]

Saying that you are confident in your climbing abilities and have been involved in large dismantles is a world a way from saying " show me the tree and I'll get it on the ground in any way you want me to".

Most times you will get called out as a subbie will be for massive, dead, ivy covered Lombardy poplars, on windy days with zero access for any machinery and targets all over the place so you will need to rig down a 120ft tree in 4th sections.

 

Are you ok with that?

[Matt McAulay]

Most of the calls i get are the trees no one wants to climb ivy covered or technical, best experience you can get i wouldnt have any other way makes for an interesting day, only problem i dont get called when keep normal jobs in like hedge cutting and the like. For the big part the guys i contract into are a laugh and as your climbing they dont expect you to help when back on the ground.

[elicokiz]

hi, i have put a thread on here about being self employed and have asked a few questions about it so anymore in put would be much appreciated.

 

I have another wonder about it though, for those that became self employed or sub contracted themselves out for the first time did you find it nerve racking or were you confident in your ability. And how much experience did you have.

 

i am very confident in my ability to climb and have worked on large dissmantles but cant help but get the old nerves the first day with a new company, i find myself worrying inside before we get to the job no matter how big or small even though i have done some tough and big jobs in the past.

 

Do subbies have this problem at the beginning?

 

You always come across as very competant and confident to me..thats half the battle...I would certanly place you equal with other outstanding arborists I have known and observed working...everyone has some vision of what could go wrong thats why your pre climb obs are so essential:thumbup: p.s see you Thursday:thumbup:

[Littletree]

I did some work for a local tree surgeon that have only been at it for just over 2.5 years pro and I must say his work up the trees was Excellent , you would of thought he had been at it for 10 years his cuts were perfect every time and he could tackle any tree and get a great result . I remember looking up at this huge tree that he had to dismantle part way and I just thought Wow. When he had finished it looked fab and really well done.

 

So I think it depends person to person as to weather you would be able to sub your self out as a climber after a short time on the tools ,some would be able to do it and for others it could take a lot longer or years to get to that point where they were able to tackle any tree in any condition and any size and make a great job of it .

 

For me as self employed but still new into it I only sub out as a groundy but for all my private work I tackle the smaller stuff all the stuff others would not want to touch the ivy covered the dead woods, thinnings small dismantles . I have greatest of fun and delight doing it as know its within my abilities ,get well paid for it and can make a really nice job of it for my customers.

 

All the big Damita and complicated stuff I leave for the big boys that have been at it a long time as I still have a long way to go and lots to learn yet.

 

I have really enjoyed subbing to different company's you get to meet lots of different people and see how different company's work and learn lots of new stuff and you are not tied in so if they or you are not happy with each other you can just move on as there is no notice to work though.

 

Good luck with your self employment its a great way to work .

 

Littltree:thumbup:

[English-arb]

interesting what you have all said.

 

some of you have said that you sub contract mostly as a groundsman, didnt thing there would be much demand for that?