Richard Dawkins- discuss

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

 

I am not saying they do not mourn, I am just yet to find any proof, or anyone who worth listening too, that supports the graveyard idea.

 

 

 

I couldnt give a monkies uncle wether you believe it or not to be fair, I know what I've seen, and I am happy with what I've seen through the medium of film.

 

Nobody worth listening too, crikey, thats an arrogant statement, just how much time have you spent in the cradle of life then!

[Fungus]

2. Elephant graveyard

 

Thompson,

Forget the second link (it's a double of the first one) and the movie Elephants of Kilimanjaro by Hugo von Lawick probably is the film Tony meant.

[Saw-sick Steve]

1. New Scientist article.

2. Elephant graveyard.

I don't think anyone can deny that Elephants acknowledge and maybe even possibly recognise the dead remains of their kin, but to describe that behaviour as 'mourning' in the conventional sense of the word is probably a step too far.

Regarding the mythical 'Elephants graveyard', Ian Douglas-Hamilton (who spent the best part of his life studying elephants) in his definitive work 'Among the Elephants' gives the idea short shrift - as do 'New Scientist'.

I'm afraid that a link to a site entitled 'UFO Digest' does little to bolster your case.

[skyhuck]

I once heard on the radio about someone seeing a large bull elephant on a cliff over looking a bay, the elephant was making a low rumbling sound, out in the bay was a large whale.

 

Is this just fantasy???

[scotspine1]

I once heard on the radio about someone seeing a large bull elephant on a cliff over looking a bay, the elephant was making a low rumbling sound, out in the bay was a large whale.

 

Is this just fantasy???

 

no its true, the reason behind the story is that elephants are evolved from whales. One day a whale looked onto the vast plains of Africa and thought, 'I want to explore that area'. So he concentrated really hard and forced his body into the shape of an elephant and lo and behold he became an elephant.

[skyhuck]

no its true, the reason behind the story is that elephants are evolved from whales. One day a whale looked onto the vast plains of Africa and thought, 'I want to explore that area'. So he concentrated really hard and forced his body into the shape of an elephant and lo and behold he became an elephant.

 

Cool!!!!!!!!

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

no its true, the reason behind the story is that elephants are evolved from whales. One day a whale looked onto the vast plains of Africa and thought, 'I want to explore that area'. So he concentrated really hard and forced his body into the shape of an elephant and lo and behold he became an elephant.

 

more likely the other way round, whales and all the aquatic mammals evolved from land animals.

[scotspine1]

more likely the other way round, whales and all the aquatic mammals evolved from land animals.

 

 

whales are descended from cow-like ancestors that gave up their land dwelling existence and went back to the sea, some say that what actually happened was that one of these cow-like creatures slipped off a rock next to the sea, fell in to the water and became a whale.

[Sam Thompson]

I couldnt give a monkies uncle wether you believe it or not to be fair, I know what I've seen, and I am happy with what I've seen through the medium of film.

 

I want to see the film, it might change my mind

 

Nobody worth listening too, crikey, thats an arrogant statement, just how much time have you spent in the cradle of life then!

 

The "yet to find" part of that sentence is important. It's not arrogant, it's the truth.

[skyhuck]

I take it your a creationist Tim.

 

It must have be really cool when god (the most complex and incredible thing, way better than any of the physical universe he created) just appeared from no where!!!