Would you do it?

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I wouldn't bet on it..

 

You are professional and should know better..

 

:lol:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Lets be realistic Tony, how many actually give a toss enough to care about the tree, most are only interested in money in their pocket.

 

I know if I were a customer that had had a tree pruned 10 years previous and the tree shed a limb form or around the old pruning wound I would point my finger straight at the so called professional Tree Cutter should Mr Where's there's blame came knocking at my door

 

If we dont care for trees who the ..... will!

 

and if you was my customer and came to me ten years down the line and said oi this is your fault i would swiftly dig out his quotation and show hinm where it said IN BOLD CAPITALISATIONS!

 

MUST BE RE DONE TO SPEC EVERY FIVE YEARS, or we can not accept liability without at the least an anual inspection of the tree to be paid for at YOUR expense.

[Mesterh]

That would have to relate to every bit of tree work I carry out.

 

I could remove a 2 inch limb that gets infected which leads to the decline,death a failure of a mature tree.

 

As long as I give professional advice from the start as Mick has then I'm not going to worry about it in the future.

 

Mick could prune that tree and it will probably still be sound in 20,30,40 etc etc...years time, the tree owner still has to maintain it though.

 

Blame the person who planted it in the first place.

[Dean Lofthouse]

Tony:

 

What I meant was, how many give enough of a toss to write a caveat, never mind prune a tree properly

 

Mark

 

An LA tree failed in Huddersfield last year killing a child. I'm sure following investigation will have covered when and who carried out any pruning works or what caused the failure and I sure if the failure was caused by a bad pruning wound the LA would have been trawled over hot coals.

 

Infact I know the limb was taken away for inspection

 

Nowadays everyone is looking for someone to blame, I have experienced that first hand twice

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

See that symbol in my avatar, thats a shape youll all come to know sooner or later, it is an optimal shape of natural things, quite a fascinating thing when you understand its implications.

 

If a trees carb distribution netwrok is upset and out of balance a tree has trouble conforming to the axiom, axioms and optomisation indicated by this shape.

 

when you do works that disable the tree from performing this task, YOU are at fault.

 

simples.

[Amelanchier]

i'm not saying sign away your duty of care, i'm saying that you have written proof that you have explained to the customer you are not in agreement with what they want you to do, your professional opinion is to fell and replace..

 

and I'm not saying this as someone who knows some one whos done it,, it is company practice at the country's largest snowsport retailer,, it covers their backside and i've seen it stand up in court,, 1st hand..

 

it is not negligence,,, in fact it is quite the opposite..

 

A lot depends on the resources of the duty holder. It may not be reasonable for the retailer to prevent people being idiots if there are enough of them...

 

IMO it is reasonable to expect that a tree worker does not knowingly create a hazard even if the employer (homeowner) wants him to against his professional judgement.

 

The tree owner cannot absolve you of your duty of care, thats for the courts to decide. Would you put the gob in a tree and leave it for the owner to backcut if he told you he would sign a disclaimer for your liability?

[Mesterh]

What would happen if Mick refused to do the job as did every other tree surgeon.

 

The owner then proceeds to carry out the job himself, falls off his ladder and die's.

 

Come on its all hypothetical.

[Dean Lofthouse]

What would happen if Mick refused to do the job as did every other tree surgeon.

 

 

Then bad practice in tree work would reduce drastically and people building homes next to 300 year old oaks hacking them to pieces after 12 months of living there would also cease

[Matt Butler]

What would happen if Mick refused to do the job as did every other tree surgeon.

 

The owner then proceeds to carry out the job himself, falls off his ladder and die's.

 

Come on its all hypothetical.

 

I love this post:001_smile:

[Amelanchier]

What would happen if Mick refused to do the job as did every other tree surgeon.

 

The owner then proceeds to carry out the job himself, falls off his ladder and die's.

 

Or maybe after putting the phone down on the last refusal, the owner might turn his exasperated wife and softly say;

 

"Hmmm, you know, perhaps it is a stupid idea after all - just like the first guy told me it was. If I had taken his expertly conveyed professional advice in the first instance, I wouldn't have wasted weeks of my life. Maybe we should leave the tree alone dear and focus on the making the world a better place with what time we have left."

 

Come on its all hypothetical.

 

That's why its fun.