Proposal to the Environment Agency

[18 stoner]

As a result of the origional thread started by Bareroots "Waste transfer license", certain issues arose regarding Arbtalkers opinions on the current system that the EA have in place for handling "green waste".

 

Following the offer from Paul (AA Teccie) to approach the EA with a proposal, i thought it would be best to start a seperate thread for people to add comments and suggestions for Paul to put forward.

 

For those who missed out on the origional thread;

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/aa/15732-waste-transfer-licence.html

 

Hope this simplifies it a little for you Paul, and many thanks for the offer:thumbup1:

[Dean Lofthouse]

An exemption should apply if your sole trade is Tree surgery and only remove organic arisings that are re-used

[Albedo]

Just 2 points.

 

1) I thought AA paul said he wasn't intending to pursue it.

 

2) Not sure if this is worth pointing out but the waste transfer thing had been done to death on here at least once before bareroots raised it again.

 

Could be wrong, I'm sure AApaul will clarify

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Excellent, thanks for bringing it here where I can monitor it more closely.

 

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT if we can keep comments brief (as poss) and stay on topic I will let them run for a little while and then propose a way forward.

 

Cheers all, have a great weeknd!

Paul

[18 stoner]

Ok, so could i put forawrd, that as Dean says, all clean, virgin timber and arisings are de-classified from being waste, provided it is going to be recycled.

 

I think it would be a good idea to put forward that arb companies should apply for a free exemtion to carry green arisings. Within that, there to be a declaration that the applicant will not carry "waste", and if requested should be able to prove recycling facilties of virgin green arisings, or records of tipping at a recycling depot.

 

If any operator was to take arising to landfill, the waste carriers license would still apply.

[Frank]

What a good idea. That way, we could carry small amounts of brash back to the yard to be chipped later, from smaller jobs when it is sometimes pointless dragging a chipper all the way to only to run it up for 40seconds worth of chipping.

[18 stoner]

I have copy and pasted this post from the main waste transfer license thread as i am hoping that this is the general direction those who have shown interest, would like this issue to head.

 

There is no reason why the WCL cannot be turned into a declaration the same as the WTL in my opinion.

 

Also, in my opinion, a declassification should apply to any clean virgin arisings that are recycled into a product, therefore seperating the term "waste" from "recyclable". Perhaps the exemption could be called a "recyclable product carrier" Lol!

 

Then, if you carry waste, you need to apply and pay for a WCL. If you only carry clean virgin arisings that are to be recycled, you need to apply for a free exemtion.

 

However, an operator should still apply for a WCL if they are taking any virgin waste to landfill.

 

I wonder if landfill sites should have a compulsary order on them to take down details of the operators WCL prior to tipping? I believe at present some ask for it, some dont.

 

Feel free to comment.

 

If this is a general basis for Paul to build a proposal, could people either agree or perhaps suggest any other issues they feel are important and have not been mention so far, and this important issue can move forward.

 

Perhaps Paul could also share thoughts on this as a base for a proposal.

[Big 'Ammer]

Seems a sensible way forward, Pete.

 

However, to save a mountain of administration, why don't the EA just unequivocally clarify to tree surgeons and to other authorities who want to check, that tree surgery arisings are not waste.

 

Then only those who carried 'waste' would need licenses.

[gensetsteve]

I may not have anywhere near as much info as some people have on here. But recently I read on the enviroment website that they were taking a more sensible approach toward low hazard waste. Meaning that if it cant pollute if spilt etc there would be little need for a licence. Has anyone spoken to the EA to see if wood chip could be classed as such. I service large diesel generators and because I create the waste oil in the course of my job it becomes my waste and therefore dont need a licence. I have this in writing from the EA. On the other hand if I was a builder and knocked down a wall I would defo need a licence. I have by the way got a licence as its such a grey area its not worth the grief to save £100 every three years.