blue cedar dismantle

[testcricket01]

Thats cool Josh, I only interrupted to highlight the type of thing I had in mind when designing it.

 

TC, persevere with the lever, watch the demo vid again perhaps. You do have to think some, but it'll come good I promise.

 

i shall do reg im sure it will come. not me who has to worry about useing it day to day im always up the tree. good solid device though just what i was looking for in a lowering device.

[josharb87]

Thats cool Josh, I only interrupted to highlight the type of thing I had in mind when designing it.

 

TC, persevere with the lever, watch the demo vid again perhaps. You do have to think some, but it'll come good I promise.

 

no worries about interupting, youre interuption has made all the diffrence to my views of the product/system

 

could you keep the anchor points as tc had, but use a craning/redirect pulley near the butt??? could be easier for multiple resetting, whilst giving the controll off the butt you demonstrated on the beech??? then if the redirect pulley could be released, the groundsmen would have the advantages of the higer anchor-for pulling the lowered limb away from the tree, e,g fence near trunk. could that be a possibility?

[RC0]

no worries about interupting, youre interuption has made all the diffrence to my views of the product/system

 

could you keep the anchor points as tc had, but use a craning/redirect pulley near the butt??? could be easier for multiple resetting, whilst giving the controll off the butt you demonstrated on the beech??? then if the redirect pulley could be released, the groundsmen would have the advantages of the higer anchor-for pulling the lowered limb away from the tree, e,g fence near trunk. could that be a possibility?

 

Josh, sorry, you’d have to draw what you mean so I can get a clearer picture. But if you have already seen it in your imagination then the answer is probably yes. I’m also a little reluctant to give a definite yes or no in any case as all trees and circumstances are different, but I can tell you what worked for me on a specific occasion.

 

e.g. The beech video shows several examples of double rigging semi-horizontals; The primary rigging line (brush) is under more tension when at a wider angle, hence there is a more sudden and faster movement when the limb comes off the stump; For this reason I reduced all the distances on the secondary line (butt) to a minimum i.e. Block-to–tie off, with only a little room to fit the cut in between; The block had to be outside of where I was positioned and pre-tensioned with the 5:1 option to further reduce the movement; With everything else in place I used out-board step cuts to create an extra barrier between myself and the limbs, as a couple would’ve broke me in half had I been in the wrong position.

 

Using 2 lines is nothing new really though, its just that having a fixed LD with two identical bollards give consistency for better control all round…..same as double rigging the big blocks: http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/rigging-roping/16223-blocking.html you couldn’t expect that to work out with two different LDs.

 

TC, using the lever is really a two person deal now….or at least it’s much, much easier that way. In some of the earlier designs it wasn’t, but I had to change it just before the product came to market. Appologies again for butting in, this is about your cedar afterall:thumbup1:

[skyhuck]

to test it out fair enough, but that looked painfully slow. maybe if the top pully points were diffrent, and away from the main stem it could have an advantage. but looks like any of those limbs could have been lowered off flat with a capstan and cradle technique, or just capstan, or cut n chuck

 

 

 

Then have morning brew and off to the next job

[testcricket01]

 

Then have morning brew and off to the next job

 

cut and chuck could have been a option for most of it part from they didnt want any dents in the lawn, you wouldnt have been haveing morning brew and going onto next job though since there there was 2 full loads of chip and 2 full loads of timber. takes over a hour for each trip to take a load.

[Tree Man Tom]

cut and chuck could have been a option for most of it part from they didnt want any dents in the lawn, you wouldnt have been haveing morning brew and going onto next job though since there there was 2 full loads of chip and 2 full loads of timber. takes over a hour for each trip to take a load.

 

Have you seen hucks truck!? lol

[Frank]

Yeah. Fair enough testing out the new system but I did notice a distinct lack of communication between climber and groundie which would surely be more needed when testing something new. You did nothing wrong at all. The tree as dismantled very well with relative ease and more importantly safely. Just think that firstbtut nearly hit you then you shouldve told the groundie this and tried less wraps or a different approach on second similar sized limbs. Once again, nice job, well done and I'm sure you will come to grips with the new kit very shortly and the groundie will be quizzing them lumps down like a good-un.

[testcricket01]

Yeah. Fair enough testing out he new system but I did notice a distinct lack of communication between climber and groundie which would surely be more needed when testing something new. You did nothing wrong at all. The tee as dismantled very well with relative ease and more importantly safely. Just think that first but nearly hit you then you shouldve told the groundie this and tried less wraps or a different approach on second similar sized limbs. Once again, nice job, well done and I'm sure you will come to grips with the new kit very shortly and the groundie will be quizzing them lumps down like a good-un.

 

i no what you mean its cause im only 19 and hes 30 something been doing it since he was 16 same as me. hes much more experienced i dont like to tell him what to do if you no what i mean.

[testcricket01]

Have you seen hucks truck!? lol

 

nope lol i no we only just fitted are landy in drive though its one of them old towns with tiny streets and very tight drive ways.

[Frank]

i no what you mean its cause im only 19 and hes 30 something been doing it since he was 16 same as me. hes much more experienced i dont like to tell him what to do if you no what i mean.

 

In m opinion mate, the climber is the boss and his safety is number one priority. Make yourself heard, you are basically running the show. If the limbs don't swing away from you quick enough let him know. I'm sure he will be more impressed with some communication and some intuition than if you were to be injured by a butt swinging into you and giving you a great whack. If you did something wrong he would be the first to shout up. Seeing those bits falling smoothly and gracefully away from you and touching the ground feather like would make his day as much as it would make yours. He might be more experienced but you were both as new to the system.

Edited May 7, 2010 by Frank