Hamas big reduction/pruning thread!

[RobArb]

even in the south of the country and the de groote area?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

In The Netherlands, we don't have natural and sound environments (anymore).

 

 

is it really that bad Gerrit? in your 40 odd years studying the habitats and ecologies have you seen the progression of this demise?

[Fungus]

even in the south of the country and the de groote area?

 

Rob,

Especially in the eastern and southern parts of the country because of the extreme density of pig and chicken farms (nitrification, OPM) and what do you mean with the "de groote" area ?

[RobArb]

I thought there was a de groote peel (spelling) national park? SE of Eindhoven

 

Is this similar to the national parks we have here?

Edited May 2, 2012 by RobArb

[Fungus]

is it really that bad ? in your 40 odd years studying the habitats and ecologies have you seen the progression of this demise?

 

I have. I have even stopped monitoring some of my former researched forests and woodlands, because visiting them to often could lead to depression. This year I'm moving to another part of the country to escape from witnessing hundreds of oaks and beeches dying because of the effects of excessive nitrification.

[Fungus]

I thought there was a de groote peel (spelling) national park? Is this similar to the national parks we have here?

 

The Grote Peel is a moor and bog area close to the most polluting pig farms with all birches dying because of nitrification. And the most similar to your national parks is the central area of the national park of the "Hoge Veluwe" with its sand dunes and oak, beech, birch and pine forests on still relatively poor sandy and loamy soils.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I have. I have even stopped monitoring some of my former researched forests and woodlands, because visiting them to often could lead to depression. This year I'm moving to another part of the country to escape from witnessing hundreds of oaks and beeches dying because of the effects of excessive nitrification.

 

 

between you me and the fence post:001_rolleyes: Im seeing problems here too, and thats changes in the last ten years. I am certain that something is happening because the principle decayers are on the increase year on year and this is in old growth areas, in town its tenfold

[RobArb]

Cheers,

my mum and dad have been to the netherlands a few times and i've seen loads of pics but never been. As stated, its funny how a countries history effects todays climes!

 

Thanks again for the explanation:biggrin:

[Amelanchier]

According to Nigel Fay, Ted Green and Jill Butler, all British veteran oaks, beeches, ashes, Castanea and Carpinus are pollards, that would not have survived nor become a veteran if people would not actively have "managed" the trees by cutting "bits" of them.

 

Of course if all our veterans have been 'cut' then we have nothing to judge that claim against do we! Neatly unfalsifiable.

[RobArb]

quick question, do your local climes differ (with quite a vast difference) in different parts of the country like they do here between the north and south?