Realistic chances of employment?

[Steven P]

49 minutes ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

I was told by a very well known firm who do proper trees in london an the south east by the time your 30 in this game they'd put you onto the contracts management side of things ,by the time he's 40 he'd learn the trade but be knackered , how many 40/50 year old are still climbing ?

Just pointless his best years are gone 

 

You see it all over, as we age we are fitter better than similar aged 20 years ago - might have been the rule then and that has carried over despite the evidence.

 

Regardless, 'best years are gone' - but that never means throw onto the scrap heap, pointless - even if they are past, I'd be putting in a fair bet that most of us on here (and we are predominantly grumpy older men), we could still put in a fair shift when we need to.

[Tree monkey 1682]

5 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

You see it all over, as we age we are fitter better than similar aged 20 years ago - might have been the rule then and that has carried over despite the evidence.

 

Regardless, 'best years are gone' - but that never means throw onto the scrap heap, pointless - even if they are past, I'd be putting in a fair bet that most of us on here (and we are predominantly grumpy older men), we could still put in a fair shift when we need to.

Not on about people like you, the muppets that change a career then have got no chance .

[AHPP]

33 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Don’t think I don’t know who you’re referencing here!

 

I actually wasn't thinking of you, Mick but if the structural cummerbund fits...

Edited 2 hours ago by AHPP

[AHPP]

6 minutes ago, Tree monkey 1682 said:

Not on about people like you, the muppets that change a career then have got no chance .

 

That's bollocks too. I could start climbing at forty and outcompete kids within a year or two because I'm clever and lazy so will find the easiest way to do something.

[Tree monkey 1682]

41 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

 

Bullshit
 

Loads of 40/50 year olds are climbing. 
 

 

Bull shit all you want ,  your welcome to your opinion But how long does it take you u to be a decent climber? Isn't over night .

The guy who said to me that 16-30 be climbing and then 30-65 you'll be contracts maintenance .. and the is an article on them recently ,must be doing something right to have street tree contracts .

[AHPP]

You can join the masons at any age.

[Tree monkey 1682]

7 minutes ago, AHPP said:

 

That's bollocks too. I could start climbing at forty and outcompete kids within a year or two because I'm clever and lazy so will find the easiest way to do something.

But we're you doing something hard graft before? Doubt it to still be any good 

[AHPP]

Being good looking, funny and conducting myself with a reassuring ease with all strata of society, I've never had to graft very hard at anything. I did have a bad back before I started though.

Edited 2 hours ago by AHPP

[Dan Maynard]

I think the grain of truth is that this statement comes from someone doing London street trees, which is basically a race around the trees following the previous cuts on piece work. This suits young climbers, I've met people who went down to the smoke to do this and then came back.

 

It's not what I want to be doing - I'd rather be in domestic arb working for people who appreciate me taking time and care to do a good job. There's no advantage in being 22 here, more of it's down to thinking fast, moving slow like Alex says. All about efficiency, and then thinking steps ahead will win over youth every time. Also turn up every day you say you're going to, with sharp saws and working kit.

 

Also my point about hard graft, use a loader. Don't need to bust a gut humping heavy wood around any more.

[tree-fancier123]

1 hour ago, Mick Dempsey said:

 

Bullshit
 

Loads of 40/50 year olds are climbing. 
 

 

If Ive gleaned it correctly you started at a similar age to the OP, about 30?, you've progressed from climbing as an employee to climbing for yourself in your own firm. Have now done about 30 years climbing and have earned enough for a decent retirement.

But just because you did it, doesnt mean others would be so resilient and motivated!